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whiskers_ump Thu Dec 06, 2001 09:37pm

In UIL, pardon, in Federation, does the *look-back rule*
go into effect in the same manner as the new ASA rule?
Its wording is just not as strong as in the ASA wording.
[quote] <b>when a runner is legitimately off a base after
a pitch or as a result of a batter <u>touching first base,</u>
and while the pitcher has possession of the ball within
the 16-foot pitching circle, the runner may stop once,
but then must immediately return to the base or attempt
to advance to the next base.</b>[unquote]
__________________________________________________ __________

Related info: Federation.

Previous possession rule stated that the ball was to be in either hand.
It is possible for the ball to be in her possession, but
not in either hand. Pitcher may have ball in glove tucked
under arm or between her knees . Ball is considered to be
in her possession; therefore, runners not released.

Have found no mention of this in ASA! Would same apply.

glen


Dakota Fri Dec 07, 2001 12:05am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by whiskers_ump
In UIL, pardon, in Federation, does the *look-back rule*
go into effect in the same manner as the new ASA rule?
Its wording is just not as strong as in the ASA wording.
Quote:

<b>when a runner is legitimately off a base after
a pitch or as a result of a batter <u>touching first base,</u>
and while the pitcher has possession of the ball within
the 16-foot pitching circle, the runner may stop once,
but then must immediately return to the base or attempt
to advance to the next base.</b>[unquote]
__________________________________________________ __________

Related info: Federation.

Previous possession rule stated that the ball was to be in either hand.
It is possible for the ball to be in her possession, but
not in either hand. Pitcher may have ball in glove tucked
under arm or between her knees . Ball is considered to be
in her possession; therefore, runners not released.

Have found no mention of this in ASA! Would same apply.

glen

For all Yankees - UIL is Texan for Fed ;)

ASA & Fed in alignment on the runners being off base until the batter-runner acquires 1B - Fed's rule looks like it might cause some discussion if the BR missed first - no touch?

Regarding possession & ASA - they now require possession and control - see my comments on the other look back rule thread. Between the knees would now release the runners, apparently, for ASA.

Gulf Coast Blue Fri Dec 07, 2001 05:28am

<b>Dakota wrote:

For all Yankees - UIL is Texan for Fed</b>

Close, but not quite.......UIL (University Interscholastic League) governs every cometetive extracurricular activity in Tx. From Band, Choir, Debate, Softball, Tiddley Winks, etc............grin

However, all sports in Texas are not always governed by FED rules. HS Football for instance uses NCAA rules instead of NFHS. I think most of the other major sports use the NFHS rules, but only if the UIL says that's what to use.

Joel



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