ASA Slowpitch rules?
 

Can someone please tell me if this is correct. I had one strike,then hit a foul for the second strike................now I thought I got a "courtesy " foul so I fouled off a bad pitch (or what I thought was bad) and I was called out for the last foul as being a strike??
This is womens ASA slowpitch softball
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thanks!!!

So sorry; you were mistaken. In ASA slowpitch, a foul on the third strike is an out.

Yeah, what Steve said. One of forty two!:D

Some SP leagues that I work do have a 'courtesy foul' rule, which allows for an additional foul ball strike (resulting in the count holding at strike two), before the next foul ball will be strike three and an out. Any use of this rule is local only, and does not exist in ASA rules, as stated above. When you work leagues with local variances from ASA rules, you should be told about them in advance. I always ask, or as a last resort, address them during the pre-game conference. The various SP leagues I work have their own variation on SP stealing, courtesy fouls, over the fence HR limits (including 'progressive' HR's), run ahead rules (mercy rules), player re-entry, etc... I always make a point of going over what local rules the league uses, then conclude by stating that, other than those exceptions, we will be playing the game under ASA rules.

Thank Bluefoot!
 

Bluefoot, thanks for your reply:) I will be asking my locals about that because I'm almost 100% sure that we had a courtesy last year.
As for AtlUmpSteve and IRISHMAFIA, are you on here to help people or just to be a jerk? Next time please ask Bluefoot for the answer before you post anything, maybe you could learn something.
:D Back atcha

One night a week, we use the 1 & 1 count rule where the batter comes to bat with a 1 ball and 1 strike count. They get a courtesy foul. In your situation, you would still have 2 strikes and no more fouls to give. Next foul ball and you would be out. Check to make sure your local rule didn't change over the winter.

BTW, you shouldn't be swinging at bad pitches in the first place. :D

Same rule we have here, NDblue, except it applies for all games. The initial 1-1 count takes a little getting used to ... it hangs me up the first couple games of every season ... I have to remember to set the indicator to 1-1 instead of 0-0 every new AB.

And I've learned to handle that courtesy foul by verbally warning the batter after the first one "no more fouls for you" (I feel like the soup Nazi!) :) F2 picks it up, lets F1 know ... everybody's happy.

ROTFLMAO - - She didn't know the rule and is mad that you didn't give her the answer she wanted. The obviously means she has to call you names. I think I've had that coach before.

NO, I don't have to call anyone names! I was just asking if that is how he act with everyone and if so then he could learn a thing or two from bluefoot about how to answer a question, without sounding so rude:rolleyes:

However with two strikes on you, I am not the kind of person to go down looking so I will swing at what I think may or maynot be a bad pitch...my fault for hitting it off foul and not knowing the strike/foul count....

SORRY for the question I though that is what this forum was for.......

You're problem is you don't even understand the question you asked. You asked for the ASA rule... you stated that in your subject line and in your final statement. You were given the ASA rule - no "courtesy"foul.

Maybe you should re-read this thread and see who, in fact, was being rude.

OUR LEAGUE is based on ASA rules. Otherwise I would have just asked about courtesy fouls in slowpitch softball..........WOULD THAT be better?

No, what would be better would be to lose the attitude when the question you asked is answered. Since, as you found out, there is no ASA rule for courtesy fouls, then it MUST be a local rule.

No one here can address your local rules, unless they just HAPPEN to umpire in your league. Now that you know it is not an ASA rule, you need to take your question up with your league. If the league does not have a courtesy foul rule, then the call was made correctly. If they do, then the call was not correct. Simple as that.

With 3,503 posts on this site, it don't look like you get off your arse long enough to play any ball. Is that where your attitude comes from?? And another thing I don't remember asking you in the first place.

So get a life buddy!

But thanks again for going over what bluetooth already did:) Again I said he did a great job and if you read what he wrote you learned something and if not............move on:) thanks

With an attitude like that, you're not going to get much help later on if you need it. This is an umpires forum and most of us (if I'm not mistaken) probably don't play much ball, we officiate the games and if it weren't for us, your games wouldn't be all that much fun. Backyard games and some lower level rec games may be OK without umpires but competitve leagues need us to keep everybody in check and playing by the rules.

I never said Umpires were not needed but with attitude like some that are on this site, YOU CAN BE REPLACED! N & S Dakota is not the only place they play competitive ball. WE PAY FOR YOU...not the other way around........:)

think about it.........so help me or don't I don't care, I will keep playing and you will keep watching.

GOOD TIMES:)

hrradigan,

Come on now, let's be ADULTS here. :eek: Yes, your local softball associations do pay us (not enough sometimes) but who brought that up? Nowhere did I say anything about the only competitve ball is played in the Dakota's. Why did you bring that up? :eek:

BTW, I don't come out to the diamonds to "watch" you play. I come out to make sure you play the game by the rules and in the process, I have to keep an eye on the game. I'm guessing, but I bet your a Rec 3/4 player? That's the league for new and not-so-good teams.

Changing the subject a little, any of y'all ever get in an argument on the field and then out of the corner of your eye catch your partner doing this: :p :rolleyes: :D ?

Point 1. This is an umpire's board where many umpires come to share and discuss rules, plays, situations and training among other subjects.

Point 2. No one on this board has a problem helping out others, but we are not here for your convenience. You do not pay us to be here. We get no additional perks or benefits from anyone for being here and sharing our experience and knowledge.

Point 3. You asked a question, a simple question. You were given the answer. The fact that you didn't care for it is an issue you can deal with in the mirror. It is the correct answer and I simply followed up Steve's reply in a humorous manner. Do you even know what "one of forty-two" means? BTW, Steve probably knows more about softball, the game and rules, than most ,if not all, of the people you know combined.

Point 4. Just because your league or whatever uses ASA rules, it doesn't mean that they cannot invoke Rule 12 and modify said rules in any manner they wish to accommodate their teams.

Final point. You can come on this board and learn, or not. That is your option. However, even though we all have options, there is no requirement to kowtow to you or anyone else.

JMHO

This thread serves to illustrate one of my pet peeves with 'local' league rules: players often don't understand that local rules are not necessarily the same as official rules (ASA or other).

In this case, somebody actually made an effort to become informed, but I have an additional suggestion--obtain a current rule book and read it! This will dispell some additional myths.

And from where I'm lurking, there was no rudeness in the first two replies. . .

OOOOOOOOO! I guess you told me!

Again, who started the name calling? (that would be you).

Who started the put downs? (that would be you).

Who copped the attitude? (that would be you).

Who doesn't really care if you ever get any questions answered? (that would be me).

OMG.........you're soooooooo funny!!!! LMAO
See you guys on the field:D :D

Maybe I was wrong, I just thought the first two posts were a little short and not sooooo nice....maybe it's me reading too much into things;)
I've been told I can do that......anyhow want to thank you for your post you are soooo true. That is how I got into this mess in the first place. I was looking online for the ASA rules and found this site. (I do need a book)

I understand the local rules are usually only based on ASA rules........problem is I didn't have a rule book and was just curious.....isn't that what killed that cat.:D

If you are in a league that registers teams ASA..they should provide a copy of the book.... if its BASED on ASA rules, they should have a book at the site, or at least access to league rules.

This is the BEST place to come for a softball rules question...There is NO BETTER place. Sometimes humor will be involved, but 99% of the people here WILL be polite. Dont take any of it personally.

Feel free to come back and ask for anything you need.

She doesn't have a book, doesn't know the rules, but knowledgable umpires are 'jerks' for not spoonfeeding her the answer she wants to hear :rolleyes:

Yep, thats typical.

I believe she has been properly toasted.. we DO want her to return.....

Speak for yourself! ;)

J/K ... but hopefully with a bit stiffer spring on that trigger of hers.

Thanks hrradigan, for reminding me again why I only call fastpitch. What an attitude!:cool:

Did anyone say fastpitch? I'll play if they let me, if not I like to watch too. How many fouls do you get in fastpitch? LMFAO

NO that's not it, you just need to learn how to hold the spoon!:p