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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 11:24am
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If we all know the pitcher can look anywhere to get the signal, seems kind of silly to have him/her "simulate" taking a signal from the catcher.

The 12U pitcher has only 1 pitch and struggles to get it in the zone somewhere. What signal does she need to take?

If the issue is to prevent the "run & shoot" style of delivery, establish a rule to deal with that.
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 12:24pm
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If we all know the pitcher can look anywhere to get the signal, seems kind of silly to have him/her "simulate" taking a signal from the catcher.

The 12U pitcher has only 1 pitch and struggles to get it in the zone somewhere. What signal does she need to take?

If the issue is to prevent the "run & shoot" style of delivery, establish a rule to deal with that.
They did. It's the rule that requires the pitcher to take or simulate taking a signal from the catcher.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 06:32pm
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They did. It's the rule that requires the pitcher to take or simulate taking a signal from the catcher.
They did nothing of the sort. Once a pitcher has the signal from wherever, why simulate taking another from the catcher?

If the goal is to prevent something, address it specifically. Almost as bad as the "one second" touch & go a lot of pitchers employ.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 07:36pm
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They did nothing of the sort. Once a pitcher has the signal from wherever, why simulate taking another from the catcher?

If the goal is to prevent something, address it specifically. Almost as bad as the "one second" touch & go a lot of pitchers employ.
Does the "simulation" achieve the desired goal with an easy and understandable explanation?

You just admitted that the direct approach (one-second hesitation) doesn't work, so why to you think being as blunt with forcing the pitcher to come to a stop with hands separated would work.

Are there not enough things wrong that you need to harp on one of the items that is so simple, a 10U coach can teach it?
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 09:13pm
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Maybe we should make the pitcher "present" the ball.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 10:15pm
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Maybe we should make the pitcher "present" the ball.
Been there, done that.

They will just incorporate it into their delivery and if an IP is called will swear that the pitcher stopped regardless of what the umpire "thought" s/he saw. And, of course, the coach will tell you the you are the ONLY umpire to ever make that call

Of course, if they would just change to and enforce a 2-second hesitation (like ISFs rule), it almost becomes a non-issue.

Then again, it is really a non-issue now, so why are we talking about it?
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