Your opinions wanted...
 

Here is a copy of a game report that I recently received. This was a HS Varsity game. Please read it and offer your comments:

After a particularly bad start to the game for her team,
the (deleted team name) head coach asked for and was granted time out to talk to her pitcher and team. She brought the whole team in to the circle and talked. After they had broken the huddle and before she left the field she turned and YELLED to her entire team loudly, "I expect all of you to pick up
*unintelligable name* because the blue is clearly calling pitches for them
not us. He is calling crap for us but giving them everything and I expect
you all to pick her up".

Would anybody not have ejected the coach at this point?

There's more to the report, but answer this question first.

Sounds like an early departure was exactly what the coach was wanting.

I would have to agree. Not sure what the coaches intent was at that point but I do know what the ending outcome would of been.

Sounds very much like an assistant coach just got a promotion - for at least this game.

She'd be done for the day. But, I'm wondering what happened next. Doesn't sound like she was ready to go quietly.

Andy,
I think I heard about this. I have a neice playing at a HS near you - down on Glendale Ave. between Black Canyon and Central...starts with a W and celebrating 50 years this year...she sends me these cryptic e-mails sometimes.

I would have hoped the coach would be gone...and if she made a bigger point of it, 7-0 other team.

so...what happened?

To quote John McLaughlin
 

Bye- Bye

I would like to know what else happened as well.

"blue is clearly calling pitches for them
not us" would do it.

Agreed. Ejection is warrented.

Coach, just keep walking past the dugout - to the parking lot.

This is why you make the big bucks, Andy....:D

I don't think you'll find an umpire who would not eject immediately for half of what was said - much less all of it.

So ... what is the rest of the story?

the rest of the story.....
 

Here is the rest of the game report....

Bkbjones - It wasn't the W school.
Darrell - I make the same big bucks that you do for your job....


I approached her
from my position and advised that under the terms of "Victory with Honor"
comments like that would not be allowed and that if she did it again I would be
forced to ask her to leave the area. She then asked why she couldn't tell her
team to pick up the pitcher, and I responded that she could, as long as the
derrogatory comments about the umpires were not included. She then told me that
she wouldn't say it if it wasn't so and accused (deleted umpire's name) of favoritism stating,
"This isn't the first time. You weren't here to see what he did to us last
time". I advised her that I was there the last time (deleted umpire's name) was at (deleted team name), and
that she needed to just coach her team and leave the comments off. She then
walked off and as she did called me a liar. I ignored the comment as she was
saying it as she exited the field and to respond would only exacerbate the
situation. She eventually lost the game, 14-2 in five innings. No further
incidents occurred.



Needless to say, feedback was provided....

I see at least three more ejections besides the orignal, in the remainder of the report.

Presumably, this was a newer umpire.

One thing that the umpire training I have benefitted from has almost completely avoided is this issue of behavior and ejections. Perhaps the clinicians do not want to appear to be "pushing" ejections, but I do know that in my first couple of years, I let things go that I should not have, and would not let go now. I had no real training in where the line was and how to recognize it when it was crossed and whether I would be "backed up" by my UIC, etc.

Something for clinicians to think about.

I hope that "exited the field" does not mean entered the dugout.

Good Grief, You let her call you a liar!???:eek:

Did you toss her?
From reading the post it sounds like you did not.
If you did, it might make some sense to ignore the liar remark although I would have spoken to the AD about it

I like the part where it says "no other incidents occured"
Maybe cause this coach just murdered you and got away with it a half dozen times?

Why did the plate umpire do nothing? It appears that the base umpires had to take care of this? Why was this person not ejected after the comment about being a liar?!

Wow, am I the only one with some self respect?

Let's start with the unanimous decision that the initial comments warranted immediate ejection, but then proceed as if, for some ridiculous reason, we didn't eject her...


OK - so we warned her.

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She then asked why she couldn't tell her team to pick up the pitcher, and I responded that she could, as long as the derrogatory comments about the umpires were not included. She then told me that she wouldn't say it if it wasn't so

Ejected.

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and accused (deleted umpire's name) of favoritism stating, "This isn't the first time. You weren't here to see what he did to us last time".

Ejected. (What was our warning for again????!!!!??)

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I advised her that I was there the last time (deleted umpire's name) was at (deleted team name), and that she needed to just coach her team and leave the comments off. She then walked off and as she did called me a liar.

Ejection. Good grief - what does it take to get ejected around here?!?!

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I ignored the comment as she was saying it as she exited the field and to respond would only exacerbate the situation. She eventually lost the game, 14-2 in five innings. No further incidents occurred.

Hopefully very sternly and in no uncertain terms.

I just want to thank my fellow High school umpire for making someone elses job more difficult. I promise, guys.......in 99% of the cases...the FIRST comment would be an ejection....if not the 2nd....or 3rd........:mad: We really DO know what we are doing here...... I promise.....really......

Our UIC here was pretty much just the opposite and told us to be pricks our first year and eject a coach if they even looked at us funny.

Any umpire who would let a coach call you a LIAR :mad: and not eject them on the spot needs to do something else to occupy the 2 hrs a game usually takes. You can't under any circumstances allow a coach to speak to you or your partner in that matter.