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Chess Ref Mon Apr 17, 2006 07:04pm

Positioning Questions
 
Okay I got my questions answered about pick off attempt at 1B. Now I need to move on to 2b and 3B.

I am in C slot. R1 on 2B. When there is a pick off attempt at 2B should I move parallel to basepath or should I move into the basepath ? My thinking is if F4 is making the play move towards basepath for the angle . If F6 is making the play I should move parallel ,kinda with the SS.

I am C slot. Runner on 3B. F5 making the play I step into basepath for the angle. If F6 is making the play I move parallel to basepath to get the better angle.

i know these sound like basic positioning questions but this is only my second year and at times I find myself not real sure on how to get the best angle on these sitchs. So feedback is welcomed.

SC Ump Mon Apr 17, 2006 08:12pm

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Originally Posted by Chess Ref
I am in C slot. R1 on 2B. When there is a pick off attempt at 2B should I move parallel to basepath or should I move into the basepath ? My thinking is if F4 is making the play move towards basepath for the angle . If F6 is making the play I should move parallel ,kinda with the SS.

If you move into the baseline, your going to have a good view of the tag but since the runner will be diving away from you, you will miss whether she gets to the base or not. I would always move parallel, even though there is a slight chance the runner will be between you and the fielder that is tagging her.
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Originally Posted by Chess Ref
I am C slot. Runner on 3B. F5 making the play I step into basepath for the angle. If F6 is making the play I move parallel to basepath to get the better angle.

I think that in either case, F5 or F6 will be slightly inside the base line with the runner diving back to the base. I would suggest that the best position would be as close to the third base foul line as possible, angling toward the outfield with your first couple of steps.

Steve M Mon Apr 17, 2006 08:48pm

Your best position on the pick-off is a 90 degree angle.

From the C position with the pick-off at 2B, I am going to move parallel to the path in the hope/expectation of getting to that 90 degree angle.

From the C position with the pick-off at 3B, I am moving into the 2B-to-3B path so that I get a 90 degree angle to the play.

Understand that I am using the 20-40 approach and my working in between pitches has me moving toward the most likely play. And when that play does happen, I will be in position with a really good angle and look at the play.

CecilOne Tue Apr 18, 2006 07:01am

I agree with Steve, with one exception.
On a pickoff at 2nd, if I am already in tight, an angle from inside the base line lets me see the throw into the fielder's glove and still be nearly perpendicular to the runner.
Also, that leaves me out of the path of the backup fielder and the overthrow; and gives me a quicker cover of 3rd on the throw back from F8.

Skahtboi Tue Apr 18, 2006 08:46am

The mechanic posted by Steve is also the one that I use.

Chess Ref Tue Apr 18, 2006 09:03am

SteveM
 
What is the 20/40 approach ? never even heard of it......

CecilOne Tue Apr 18, 2006 06:42pm

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Originally Posted by Chess Ref
What is the 20/40 approach ? never even heard of it......

Distance from bases.

SC Ump Tue Apr 18, 2006 08:30pm

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Originally Posted by CecilOne
On a pickoff at 2nd, if I am already in tight, an angle from inside the base line...

Huh? Inside the base line? I'm not visualizing what you mean.

Steve M Tue Apr 18, 2006 09:33pm

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Originally Posted by Chess Ref
What is the 20/40 approach ? never even heard of it......


The 20/40 approach is that my starting position is roughly 20 feet from the base occupied - 40 feet from the next base. After the pitch, before the return to the pitcher, I will take 1 stride toward the occupied base - this way, if there is a pick-off attempt, I am already moving toward a calling position. If no pick-off attempt, I return to my starting position once the ball is returned to the pitcher.

It puts me in great position for a pick-off play and I am able to get into a calling position, in time, when the runner tries to steal.


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