Does anyone else think that NFHS 2006 examination question 24 is poorly worded?

Rabbit

a poorly worded item on a rules test ??
not possible !!
(end of sarcasm)

Yes. What did it say?

Mike

What is question #24. I have taken 2 different tests from 2 different states.

Ouestion 24 NFHS 2006 FP Part 1

Under batting...

"The batter is out when the bat hits the ball a second time while the ball on or over fair territory."

7-4-1k:The batter will be called out when the bat hits the ball a second time outside the batter’s box.

That's clear enough if you don't try to overthink it.

Mike

What exactly is worded poorly here?

First to Mike Walsh there is no 7-4-1k. It is 7-4-11

Second to Mcrowder... Thank you for asking...

I know that the question has to do with the new rule change and penalty 7-4-11. It would have been nice if they had noted that the bat was out of the batters hands on or over fair territory. Since they failed to note that the batter was not in or out of the batters box. To answer the question you need to know that.
So as the question is written, the batter is standing in the front part of the box, holding the bat and the ball hits the bat a second time in fair territory the batter is out?

Which I know is not true.

Rabbit

Exactly. So the answer is false.

By poorly worded, I thought you meant that it was poorly worded. :)

Sounds to me like it is definitely worded in such a way that YOU understood that it wasn't always true. Just because a true/false question is worded in such a way to make it not true, doesn't make it poorly worded - surely SOME of the questions need to be false, else the test would be too easy. :)

Now... if the answer key says true, we have a different issue don't we?

What??? A mistake on a test? surely not! Never happens...:)

Mcrowder,

I agree with your statement...

"I have always maintained that NFHS rules tests for all sports are as much reading tests as they are rules tests." Also true for ASA.

I help new and old umpires from my local, a lot of them answered true. So I drew a batters box and stood it the front part, held a bat out over fair territory, had a one of them take a ball and show a pitch hit the bat and bounce in fair ground and bounce up again and hit the bat again in fair territory, with me still in the batters box. I now ask the to answer the again. Funny now I was not out and their answer changed.

At the state clinic I attended last night the person giving the clinic said true until I did my demo. He did not have a answer key. But said that the answer was based on the new penatly, with which I agree. BUT... oh well.


Rabbit.

It sounds to me to be exactly the type of question they would normally use to make sure you think about ALL aspects of a situation. One that is meant to make you answer true unless you think of the one exception that makes it false.

None of which has anything to do with the answer key.

Don't tell me too many answers until after 3/22.

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does any one have the nHfs test if so could i get a copy

Cecil - don't look!
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Answer is True.

Typical. The NFHS test writers do not know the rules. Therefore they don't know how to correctly ask a question. They simply find somebody to read the book and write questions without understanding the context of the rule.

WMB