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SRW Fri Jul 29, 2005 02:48pm

Wow...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

whaddayouknow Fri Jul 29, 2005 07:33pm

Quizás él fue preocupado los jugadores le referÃ*a como asno de un caballo. No creo que este vez serÃ*a la primera vez alguien está diciendo eso a él.

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jul 29, 2005 09:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by whaddayouknow
Quizás él fue preocupado los jugadores le referÃ*a como asno de un caballo. No creo que este vez serÃ*a la primera vez alguien está diciendo eso a él.
That's it!!! You're done for the night!!! Get outta here!!!

Serg, what did he say???

:D

U_of_I_Blue Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:36pm

whaddaya-
that's way too funny! ROFLMAO :D!

Mike-
I believe it says something to the following effect:

"He was worried that the players were calling him a horses ***. I don't think it was the fist time he was called that."

That's the translation of someone 2 years removed from 4 years of high school spanish. I think i'm close. :)

azbigdawg Sat Jul 30, 2005 05:17am

I think this guy has deeper issues than being a horses ***...although being a horses as MAY BE one of his deep issues..... :-)

Duke Sat Jul 30, 2005 06:16am

Just read in our local newspaper that this umpire was banned by LL from calling games for the remainder of the tourney which ends Aug 28th.

Skahtboi Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by U_of_I_Blue
whaddaya-
that's way too funny! ROFLMAO :D!

Mike-
I believe it says something to the following effect:

"He was worried that the players were calling him a horses ***. I don't think it was the fist time he was called that."

That's the translation of someone 2 years removed from 4 years of high school spanish. I think i'm close. :)

Seems that you still have retained much of that HS Spanish.

Antonella Tue Aug 02, 2005 03:12am

Try to imagine how many times I should 'ban' foreign language on an italian softball field....
In our national league there are several foreign players and coaches (USA, Canada, Australia, Czech Republic, etc.) and they often speak to each other in a language that CAN'T be italian...

And much more than this: right now there's a European Championship playing (Female Fastpitch) with teams from (not in alphabetic order)
Belgium, Croatia, Czech Rep., Germany, Great Britain, Greece, The Netherlands, Italy, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Austria, Bulgaria, Denmark, Finland, France, Hungary, Israel, Slovakia, Ukraine.
You can easily imagine there are at least 18 (YES: eighteen) different languages on those fields!
How the umpires over there (Prague, Czech Rep.) should manage this????

Greetings from Europe!

A.

Dutch Alex Tue Aug 02, 2005 04:22am

Antonella,

I count 17 languages: belgium speak dutch and/or french, In Austria german and in the Ukraine they speak (I believe) russian...
Shouldn't they all speak the queens-english? That's what the US-ump. wanted afterall, fair or unfair...
BTW,
does the Italian-team do well? I'm hoping the dutch will meet them in the final...

love from Holland,
Alex

Antonella Tue Aug 02, 2005 04:52am

Hi Alex!!
Languages are 18 because Ukraine has its own language. Very close to russian, but still different - as much as czech is different from slovak though very very similar!

BTW that umpire really show to the world he/she was not in control of that game (show to the world how NOT self-confident he/she was)! Just my opinion: you CAN control a game even if you don't understand what people around you are saying. And - as an umpire - you have to accept the fact people around you could tell/do/act thing you cannot understand. Games are for players/coaches etc. We are just in there to let the game flow according rules of softball and sportsmanlike conduct.

A.

P.S. Queens? You mean probably Queeens in NYC? LOL
P.P.S. I also hope a final game with Italy and Holland... but I also hope a different score than the BASEBALL final!!!! :o)

VaASAump Tue Aug 02, 2005 05:45am

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Originally posted by Skahtboi
Quote:

Originally posted by U_of_I_Blue
whaddaya-
that's way too funny! ROFLMAO :D!

Mike-
I believe it says something to the following effect:

"He was worried that the players were calling him a horses ***. I don't think it was the fist time he was called that."

That's the translation of someone 2 years removed from 4 years of high school spanish. I think i'm close. :)

Seems that you still have retained much of that HS Spanish.

That was very good!!! Actually, I have caught players speaking Spanish (imagine that!!!), and the look on their faces when I talk to them in Spanish. But, I have never heard anything deragotory comment in Spanish.

Guess this umpire shouldn't be in a Little League "World Series", huh? (Threw that in for you Mike. LOL)

Serg

Dutch Alex Tue Aug 02, 2005 06:43am

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Originally posted by Antonella
Languages are 18 because Ukraine has its own language. Very close to russian, but still different - as much as czech is different from slovak though very very similar!

Sorry, didn't know that fact. I've never been more east than Bulgary...

Quote:

BTW that umpire really show to the world he/she was not in control of that game (show to the world how NOT self-confident he/she was)! Just my opinion: you CAN control a game even if you don't understand what people around you are saying. And - as an umpire - you have to accept the fact people around you could tell/do/act thing you cannot understand. Games are for players/coaches etc. We are just in there to let the game flow according rules of softball and sportsmanlike conduct.

How true! I guess we all think that US-ump. made himself (and worse: all of us, umpires all over the world) look like a fool!!!

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P.P.S. I also hope a final game with Italy and Holland... but I also hope a different score than the BASEBALL final!!!! :o)

I really don't know how the baseball-final ended, by your remarks I think the Neth.'s won. I never cared much about baseball and I was on vacation in Danmark and Germany. Never read a newspaper nor listen to radio/TV on vacation.
Just learned the dutch lost against Greece; a team full with USA-girls with double nationality.
The dutch-team ain't that strong anymore since the older girls quit playing for the national team. A lot younger girls (or am I getting old?) are now playing. A final with the dutch is wishfull-thinking, but the tournament is still young. Let us see what the teams will do. As long as they enjoy the game, we will be there to work the games and share the fun!!!

bellnier Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:25am

Ban signs?
 
"It appears the umpire was concerned that the coach or manager may have been using a language other than English ... to communicate potentially 'illegal' instructions to his players". Using this same logic, the ump should also have banned both 3rd base coaches from sending signals to their players...


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