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DaNewGuy Wed Jul 20, 2005 03:20pm

Base runner leaves the bag before the pitcher has released the ball. Rule books (ASA, Pony) refer to "upon proper appeal". In a 12u FP tourny last weekend, a couple of umps I paired up with called runners out without appeal from the defensive team or coach. What's right - call the out, indicate delayed dead ball, or wait for appeal?

IRISHMAFIA Wed Jul 20, 2005 03:25pm

Quote:

Originally posted by DaNewGuy
Base runner leaves the bag before the pitcher has released the ball. Rule books (ASA, Pony) refer to "upon proper appeal". In a 12u FP tourny last weekend, a couple of umps I paired up with called runners out without appeal from the defensive team or coach. What's right - call the out, indicate delayed dead ball, or wait for appeal?
ASA Rule 8.7.S makes no such claim. I believe you have this confused with a runner leaving a base on a caught fly ball.

DaveASA/FED Wed Jul 20, 2005 03:29pm

Mike gave you the rule that will explain. But the full answer is umpire rules immediate dead ball and rules the runner out.

whiskers_ump Wed Jul 20, 2005 08:34pm

WOW,

For a minute there I thought you were going to say, "They waited for an appeal".


Answer has been supplied.


VaASAump Thu Jul 21, 2005 06:30am

FYI:

PONY Rule 9, Section 8t also makes no such claim.

Serg

U of M Sam Thu Jul 21, 2005 08:13pm

Quote:

Originally posted by DaNewGuy
Base runner leaves the bag before the pitcher has released the ball. Rule books (ASA, Pony) refer to "upon proper appeal". In a 12u FP tourny last weekend, a couple of umps I paired up with called runners out without appeal from the defensive team or coach. What's right - call the out, indicate delayed dead ball, or wait for appeal?
Check each rule book (ASA, Pony etc.)
(Little League 12U)-runner leaves base prior to pitch reaching batter, dead ball-runner out-no pitch
(Little League 13/older and NFHS)-runner leaves base prior to pitch being released, dead ball-runner out-no pitch


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