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Dakota Thu Jun 09, 2005 09:06am

Balderdash and baloney
 
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We seem to have gotten into a hypersensitive mode of late.

Maybe it is the recent intrusion of trolls, including the near troll who I have been intentionally (and with some difficutly since there are so many soft tosses he posts to pound back) ignoring, or maybe it is a cultural issue where American-speak doesn't translate well or NZ-speak is not read the same by Americans (or at least, in one case, by me), but whatever, lets grow thicker skin, shall we?

Little jabs here and there are not necessarily personal and not necessarily bad. I've had a few more-than-hints of sarcasm posted back at me a time or two.

Being personal is saying things like "you're an idiot."

Being sarcastic about a region's or an individual's rule interpretation is not "personal" unless your rule interpretation is who you are.

We've had all kinds of jibs and jabs back and forth about rule interpretations.

If the board search worked (gosh, that is taking a long time to fix!) I would suggest to do a search on the NFHS interpretation on a running lane violation on a base on balls. If you want sarcasm, you'll find the real thing there, not just a hint.

Can we grow up just a bit? We're starting to act like some of the little kids we call games for.

[/Lecture]

IRISHMAFIA Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:45am

Re: Balderdash and baloney
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dakota

Can we grow up just a bit? We're starting to act like some of the little kids we call games for.

[/Lecture]

Am not!

Dakota Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:10am

Re: Re: Balderdash and baloney
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Am not!
Are too! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/ae...smiley-022.gif

mcrowder Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:16am

I'm telling!

SRW Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:20am

DAD!!
 
Tom(Dakota) stuck his tongue out at me! Make him stop!

Rachel Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:39am

Children, go to your room! (MOM)

whiskers_ump Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:20pm

Tom started it............Make him go first.

tcannizzo Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:22am

You're only young once, but you can be immature forever.

NorthAlaUmp Sun Jun 12, 2005 09:43pm

A lesson from the law?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by debeau

ISF Rule 8(9)q 1 and 2
Interference occurs when
A coach intentionally interferes with a thrown ball while in the coaches box or
Interferes with the defensive teams opportunity to make a play on a runner or batter runner .
As we know interference does not have to be intentional .

The way I read this, debeau, is that Part 1 would apply to thrown balls, and part 2 would apply to other acts that a coach might perform that interfered. Since this was a thrown ball, I would say that the interference would have to be intentional before I would call it.

Reading it the way you seem to makes the word "intentional" irrelevant. Applying a rule from law (statutory construction), you do not put in words that have no purpose. If you call anything done by a coach that interferes with the play, whether intentional or not, as interference, then you have made part 1 meaningless.

I'd like to believe that the authors of the rules would not put in wording that has no meaning. JMHO

debeau Mon Jun 13, 2005 03:43am

I get your point and it is a good one . ( Are you a lawyer)
I read it as in the coaches box int has to be intentional outside it does not
Say if a coach moves to one side outside the coaches box to think he is getting out of the way but steps into a throw to home plate to retire a runner .


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