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whiskers_ump Sun Jun 05, 2005 09:15pm

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Originally posted by Dakota
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Originally posted by slowballbaker
New NCAA rule: pitchers can wear anything that they what to wear while on the mound..
Who cares about baseball?

Either slowballbaker did not see your post, or was unaware of its meaning.

Regardless of what anyone says, Cat is illegal at times, as are several of
the ACES throwing in this tournament.

The towel, so what. Don't you think if it affected anything that with the
caliber of coaches that are coaching teams in this Series would have brought it
forward.



whiskers_ump Sun Jun 05, 2005 09:19pm

And speaking of illegal pitches, how many times have you seen one of these pitchers
go to their mouth without wiping before gripping and delivering the ball. Several,
if you have watched the games.

slowballbaker Mon Jun 06, 2005 07:52am

Where did the towel go?????????
In the last two games Cat had no towel..
I thought maybe because she was wearing long pants....,
but hold the phone she worn shorts last night and what? no towel....Let me tell you all something right now....slowballbaker knows what he is talking about...

whiskers_ump Mon Jun 06, 2005 07:59am

Could slowballbaker be? No, surely not, BDB? :D

[Edited by whiskers_ump on Jun 6th, 2005 at 09:42 AM]

softball_junky Mon Jun 06, 2005 09:54am

I saw an illegal pitch called on the Tennessee pitcher Abbott when she was pitching vs UCLA. Last night the commentators were talking about Cat’s pitching and showed a close up shot of her feet. She came off the ground and no illegal pitch was called. Lisa Fernandez said “opps that was illegal.” It doesn’t appear she leaps all of the time but I am not there so it is hard to tell. I think the teams that are there got there by playing the game not complaining about towels. There has been some great games.

JEL Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:12am

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Originally posted by softball_junky
I saw an illegal pitch called on the Tennessee pitcher Abbott when she was pitching vs UCLA. Last night the commentators were talking about Cat’s pitching and showed a close up shot of her feet. She came off the ground and no illegal pitch was called. Lisa Fernandez said “opps that was illegal.” It doesn’t appear she leaps all of the time but I am not there so it is hard to tell. I think the teams that are there got there by playing the game not complaining about towels. There has been some great games.
It's easy to see an illegal pitch in slow motion from several different angles. Fernandez was partially correct, that was an IP on the close-up replay, but it was not a crow-hop as she reported. I couldn't tell 100% but I believe that Monica Abbott was called for a crow-hop. The crow-hop is a rarer occurrence than the leap, and much easiear to see IMO.

I have also enjoyed the WCWS, wish I coulda stayed awake for all the Michigan/Tennessee game.

NSABlue Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:07pm





Regardless of what anyone says, Cat is illegal at times, as are several of
the ACES throwing in this tournament.
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I couldn't agree more and although there have been some IP's called, it never seems to be for a crow hop or leap. As I've said before, if the crow hop / leap is not going to be called on the sports biggest stage and while on national TV, then remove the crow hop/leap as IP's from the rulebook.

streamdoc Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:43pm

A good game
 
JEL,

I stayed up to watch the end of the Tenn./Mich. game. You missed a good one. I only wish that I could see the game today. I did not see the entire game, and did not see the IP called on Abbott. But, I did see what looked to me to be leaping from her. Of course, it's hard for to tell from that center field camera angle in full motion. I'm starting to come around to the idea given on this forum to just get rid of the leap and crow hop rule in college, as I am getting tired of hearing "Kat this, Kat that" every game, and thinking to myself, "yeh, she's good - but illegal". Also, and I can't remember what game it was yesterday, but there did not appear to be any drag mark in front of the rubber at all. I guess both pitchers had the leap going on - flying through the air with the greatest of ease.

Looking forward to UCLA vs. ??? tonight (my guess is it will be Mich.)

NSABlue Mon Jun 06, 2005 01:52pm

Re: A good game
 
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Originally posted by streamdoc
JEL,

I'm starting to come around to the idea given on this forum to just get rid of the leap and crow hop rule in college, as I am getting tired of hearing "Kat this, Kat that" every game, and thinking to myself, "yeh, she's good - but illegal".

Lord help me, someone agreed with me...................

NSABlue Mon Jun 06, 2005 03:13pm

Re: A good game
 
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[i]Originally posted by streamdoc

Looking forward to UCLA vs. ??? tonight (my guess is it will be Mich.) [/B]
Good Guess !!!!

BretMan Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:28pm

I did see the IP called on Abbott.

She went into her strange, bent-over preliminary stance, brought her hands together, then her pivot foot slid forward off of the pitching plate prior to her hands separating. She then delivered the pitch.

And that, despite all the confusion with the "leap", is a genuine, honest-to-goodness crow hop!

softball_junky Tue Jun 07, 2005 01:41pm

I stayed awake to see the Tenn./Mich. game. Being a southern boy I was pulling the Tenn. I don't pull for Tenn. very often. It was a great game. My DD is going to Alabama this fall so I was pulling for the Tide until they got knock out of the tournament. When Mich. went up 3 to 0 I gave up on yesterday’s game. When I saw Tenn. came back on Mich to lose by 1 I wish I had stayed with it a little longer. Guess I will have to pull for Mich. now. UCLA has won it enough though I do like their freshman pitcher "Jelly"


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