Not a thread about her possible leap! Please don't derail. :)

Friday, Texas won on her pitching a No-Hitter (her 2nd in the past 3 games). After the game, she was interviewed and said, "The No-Hitter is nice, but I'm still upset about that walk" The 1 walk she allowed was the only baserunner of the game.

Saturday - Winner's Bracket game in double-elimination. Kat throws a perfect game, striking out 17 of 21 hitters. Guess she was serious about being upset about the walk.

Anyone see Sunday's game - I can't find a box score anywhere (even ESPN), and don't even know if she pitched. Texas won 2-0 to advance to the Super Regionals.

Found Sunday's line. She threw a 1-hitter.

What do you expect for a cheater? :D

http://eteamz.active.com/graphiconz/9/thumbz/135039.gif

Just couldn't resist, could you?

No. But, then, I didn't try very hard, either! :D

Tennessee's Monica Abbott (45-7) threw a no-hitter on Sunday, her sixth of the season. One walk in the fifth was all that kept her from a perfect game. She has not allowed a run yet in NCAA tournament play.

And best I could tell, she doesn't leap.

The girl from Tennesee doesn't leap. SHe throws good pitches.

Cat throws good pitches, just not always completely legal.

I,ve just returned from the DIII world series in Raleigh NC.
I can tell you that no one will call an IP on a crow hop or a leap. It's just not gonna be called. The NCAA should remove the leap and crow hop as illegal pitches from the rulebook. Officials do not have the courage to make the call at that level.

NSABlue where you there to call the DIII world series or just watching. I have a good friend from the Dallas area that worked it and I can assure you he will call an illegal pitch when it happens.
Any of you, including Glen, how many of you have been on the field when Cat pitches? You all complain that she is illegal. Have you worked any of her games this year? Just wondering.

Just to clarify... my post was an inside joke for frequenters of the "e" board. You'd have to be reading that board to even know what the picture meant.

I didn't mean it seriously. I've never seen Kat pitch in person. A couple of replay / highlights is all I've seen.

I've read the eteamz board and I know who you are referring to. I guess that is why I asked tha question. She gets ripped there by "the Picture". I am really curions if he has seen her in person. And then Glen chimed in. I have worked her games twice this year, once on the plate and once on the bases. I cannot vouch for any other games than those, bur she did not leap in those games. I could not tell from the plate, but I watched closely from 3rd. She pushes and drags.

No, I have never seen her in person. However, you always see more on replays, especially slow motion replays.

Cat does push and drag. But it's what happens at the end of the drag that often gets people's attention and I have only seen it in slow motion. Occasionally at the end of the drag there is a spray of dirt back towards the pitcher's plate. Well, there is only one thing of which I can think that can cause that.

No, I have not worked a Cat game since HS. Was not implying that she
is always illegal. She is so quick. Have been to a couple of games,
and at times she will still get air-borne.

I was there to watch as a fan. I have a DD who was there as a player. I'm not complaining about just one pitcher or a particular game. There were two pitchers there that clearly crow hopped and it was ignored by all the umpires despite frequent protests from opposing coaches. I watched all the games and it happened every time these two pitchers worked. Other than the crow hop these girls were fantastic pitchers. It was a great tournament with lots of great competition.I can assure you that your friend ( I know who you're referring to) would not call the IP because none of them would. Would you want to be the only umpire that calls it when no one has called it all year? I don't think so. All I'm saying is that if the officials won't call it then take it out of the book.

Some things are called the way they are called. You'd suggest rewriting the rulebook here. Do you also suggest that MLB rewrite theirs to say something like, "F4 or F6 need not actually touch 2nd base on the first half of a double play as long as they get close."?

Not re-writing the rulebook, just eliminate the IP for the crow hop and leap. I have been to many DII and DIII games the last 3 years. The game officials will not make that call under any cicumstances at the college level so I suggest we end any controversy by just eliminating the rule. Very simple, everyone will be happy.

Funny. In just the games that I worked at the college level this year, I know of four umpires who made this call. That's just the games I worked. I find it hard to believe that they are the only ones making this call.

I can assure you that your friend (I know who you're referring to) would not call the IP because none of them would. Would you want to be the only umpire that calls it when no one has called it all year? I don't think so. All I'm saying is that if the officials won't call it then take it out of the book.

Funny, I just talked to him. He said that there were over 15 illegal pitches called against one pitcher in the tournament. There was also a former olympic umpire at this tournament. While I haven't talked to her, I feel quite sure that she wouldn't have any problem calling an illegal pitch on anyone she saw.

While I personally think the women should be able to pitch the same way the men do, that is not my decision and I see the illegal pitch enforced all the time. We cover it in pregames, especially if we have a pitcher that we know throws illegally and the illegal pitch is called when it happens.

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Abbot played high school here where i am at, North Salinas High, kid can deal!!!!!!

NSAUmp,

First of all I know most of the umpires that worked the DIII Series and I know for a fact that if a pitcher was illegal then it would have been called.

Second of all, I(we) call mostly D1 ball and I know for a fact that based on the game reports we have seen, illegal pitches were called at a record number this year. In fact a team lost(Major D1 conference) because of a IP call in the 6th inning.

It's called more than you may think...The diffence is that when on the field we don't have the benifit of super-slow-mo replay and then the commentary of the know nothing talking heads in the booth.

Thanks.....

I have had the pleasure of watching Cat, Lisa, and Jenny up very close and personal. I have paid very close attention to the proported infractions. IMHO they push the envelope to the absolute limit ... and yes on a rare instance there is an infraction. But very rare.

As for any ump who does not call a rule infraction at any level ... perhaps they should reevaluate themselves. Some are better simply being spectators.

JMHO.

Regards,

John

It isn't always up to the umpire. There are times when the umpire is told what they will and will not call.

We're going to agree to disagree here. I don't disagree that some IP's were called, but they were not called on a crow hop or a leap. Last night I picked up all the pictures that I took at the world series. I had taken several pictures as she delivered the ball and the pictures show exactly what I saw while at the games. She crow hops at least 18" on every pitch. The photos clearly show the picher with her foot flat on the ground, 18" in front of the pitchers plate with the ball in her hand at about the 1 o:clock position. If that's not the result of a crow hop then I don't know what else to call it. I realize it would be very unpopular to call it every pitch so it just gets ignored. As I said, remove the crow hop and leap from the rulebook and everyone will be happy.

Hell, now you're on my bandwagon. Move the PP back 6', keep the circle and let them do anything they want with their feet as long as they start from a dead stop while in contact with the PP.

The only restriction would be that the pitcher's feet cannot leave the circle. You can even go to a 10' circle, don't care.

Allows the coaches, pitchers and umpires to concentrate on more important parts of the game.

Mike,
Been reading your posts for two years and have great respect for you opinions. Move over and I'll climb on board.

Amen, brutha!

I've seen Abbott
 

Girl has it going on, come on 6-2 lefty......now lets look at Schultzer...outa see the younger one. Notre Dame grad, just won another high school champ, 7th in a row, I believe.............

Nice job, KELLERUMPS and DNTXUM P. While I am not a Big XII official, I do work with some in other conferences and in our crew in the summer. These are solid officials and work for a coordinator who would not look too kindly on his guys/gals being afraid to call IPs or anything else. Their integrity should not be called into question so easily. I too wonder how many of these posters actually work at the level they frequently comment on.

Gee, I guess I woke up in a country where you're not allowed an opinion!

David,

Since BHBlue mentioned no names, maybe just maybe, he was not referring to you. Others,
including myself have replied to this post.

BHBlue, have not seen much of you this year, where you been hiding?

Glen,
While I'm open to the possibility that BHBlue was refering to someone else, it seems clear to me that this was a shot at me. After all, his references to Kellerumps and DNTXUM P
were direct responses to my other posts.

It was not meant be a shot at anyone. However, when someone makes blanket statements about officials at the collegate, or any other level, they can expect to be, and should be, called out for it. You are certainly entitled to one, but if it is your opinion that no college umpires have the "courage" to call IPs, it is an uninformed one.

Glen,

I'm back to the weekend tournament grind. There must be at least 10 every weekend in Houston. We have the 18 Gold Sector here next weekend. I hope to see you in Beaumont at the end of July if not before.

I can not speak for the other girls and do not know if cat still has the pitching coach she had while in HS but it was a male and he was a hella of a pitcher in his days as he made the olympic squad. They do learn from some of the best. I can not remember his name but i believe his last name was smith. He was from Washington I seem to recall someone saying.

And I called a game he pitched when he was 55 in a Latin tournament held every year in Houston, Tx. 3-5 teams from Mexico come as well as the best mens teams in TX. He had all the pitches but the prettiest one was a screw ball coming to hit the outside corner. Never seen that pitch and he had not shown it all game and it came out of the blue. Almost missed but stayed with it.

Do a men's game at that level and then do a 18U gold game and the women seem to be pitching in slow motion. I remember a guy who is known as the Argentinen threw a real hard drop. You could hear the woo, woo on every pitch. That is neat.