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don_320 Sat May 21, 2005 08:30pm

Does the batter have to leave the batters box on a passed ball so a girl can steal home? If a girl steals home and the batter remains in the box, should the runner be called out? We had a game where the batter remained in the batters box and obstructed the pitchers ability to cover homeplate and the ump said the batter has the right to the batters box no matter what.

bkbjones Sun May 22, 2005 12:15am

Not a sanctuary
 
The batter's box is NOT a sanctuary.
Obviously this is HTBT, but generally speaking: If the batter impedes the defense's ability to make an out on the runner, the batter is guilty of interference.

SRW Sun May 22, 2005 01:10am

Intent is required if she's in the box...

Intent is not required if she's out of the box...

bluezebra Sun May 22, 2005 01:34am

Quote:

Originally posted by SRW
Intent is required if she's in the box...

Intent is not required if she's out of the box...

That's the rule for any other base, but NOT on a play at home.

Bob

SRW Sun May 22, 2005 01:48am

Oh yeah.

re-read the sitch again, dummy

sorry about that.

SC Ump Sun May 22, 2005 06:15am

Quote:

Originally posted by don_320
...the batter has the right to the batters box no matter what.
I think the play is a HTBT, but this statement is not correct.

CecilOne Sun May 22, 2005 01:00pm

Hindering the catcher while in the batter's box must be intentional to be interference.
On a thrown ball (i.e., non-batted) it is only interference with any other fielder if it is an attempt to prevent an out, which means intent is required.

IRISHMAFIA Sun May 22, 2005 01:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by CecilOne
Hindering the catcher while in the batter's box must be intentional to be interference.
On a thrown ball (i.e., non-batted) it is only interference with any other fielder if it is an attempt to prevent an out, which means intent is required.

Speaking ASA

Not necessarily true. Rule 7.6.P THE BATTER SHALL NOT:

4. Interfere with a play at home plate.

No mention of intention. No mention of batter's box. No mention of ability to make an out.

CecilOne Mon May 23, 2005 11:45am

Sorry, I was in PONY mode (9-7-i, both are out).

Niz Wed Jun 08, 2005 09:18am

I'm still not clear. Is it really possible for a batter to remain in the batter's box and not interfere with a play at home plate. In Pony, is intention an issue or not? Thanks.

Dakota Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:29am

Quote:

Originally posted by Niz
I'm still not clear. Is it really possible for a batter to remain in the batter's box and not interfere with a play at home plate. In Pony, is intention an issue or not? Thanks.
Speaking ASA (don't know about Pony).

The batter is required by rule to not interfere with a play at the plate. In or out of the box doesn't matter. Intent doesn't matter.

Is it possible for the batter to stay in the box and not interfere? Sure, especially a left handed batter. A good idea to try? No.

That is different from a pick-off throw from the catcher. If the batter stays in the box and does nothing intentional to interfere, the batter is OK, even if she is in the way of the throw.


mcrowder Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:47am

It's also possible for a batter of either handedness to stay in the batters box and not interfere in a play - for example, the catcher doesn't get the ball until the runner has already scored (and yes, I had a coach try to argue that the runner should be out because the batter stayed in the box in a sitch where F2 picked up the ball about the same moment that R3 scored.)

NSABlue Wed Jun 08, 2005 02:00pm

Okay,
Let's say you rule that the batter interfered with the play at home and say for the sake of the discussion that there is one out. I know there are differences in the penalty that's applied.

NFHS - Batter is ruled out and runner is returned to third.

NSA - Runner coming home is declared out and batter remains.

ASA, USSSA - Don't know. Anybody help here?

Dakota Wed Jun 08, 2005 03:30pm

ASA is pretty easy to remember because they follow a consistent principle with interference - the player committing the infraction is out.

You only go to another player if the player committing the infraction is already out (retired runner), already scored, or not a runner or batter (e.g. on deck batter).

In some cases, an additional runner will also be called out - e.g. breaking up a double play.


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