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dsimp8 Wed May 18, 2005 11:07am

ASA rules...Bases loaded and time has expired meaning this is the last inning. Tie ballgame and 1 out.Home team batting

The batter hit the ball to the 1Bman who has to dive to his right to make the play. R1 has to hold up to make sure the ball doesn't hit him thus killing his normal run to 2B. The 1Bman goes and STEPS ON 1B then throws the ball to 2B to get R1 out. The SS knows he has to tag R1 to get the out. While the ball is in the air, R3 crosses home plate. R1 is thrown out at second but has to be tagged so I counted the run since the inning did not end w/ a force out. The visitor's "coach" was upset but when I told him what happened he then turned his rage to his 1Bman who did not throw the ball home in the first place. Was I correct in this ruling? I took my wife's car to the game and my rule book was in my truck ,which is in the shop,so I don't have access to it right now.

AtlUmpSteve Wed May 18, 2005 11:10am

You got it right. Force was removed by 1B on second out, so winning run scores.

coachfanmom Wed May 18, 2005 11:35am

Hey I actually knew the right answer on this one!!! There might be hope for me after all.... Good call Blue!!

aevans410 Wed May 18, 2005 11:47am

We don't hear "Good Call, Blue" very often. You deserve one on this.

GOOD CALL BLUE!


You nailed it.

BuggBob Wed May 18, 2005 01:43pm

Good call!

Is there not a situation which wont rile up a men's SP team? These guys arguee/whine about everything.

Ref Ump Welsch Thu May 19, 2005 12:25am

Hey BuggBob,

Ever notice the lower the level, the more they whine? The higher the level, they "express concern"? What I mean to say is, do you ever notice the change in the voice and attitude as the level goes up?

azbigdawg Thu May 19, 2005 12:33am

VERY nice call...

Alameda Thu May 19, 2005 01:08pm

This reminds me of a sitch we mauled over a few weeks ago. Good call blue. But I'm waiting for someone to come along and confuse us by saying something like "The run doesn't count since the batter-runner didn't reach 1st."

:/

AtlUmpSteve Thu May 19, 2005 01:55pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Alameda
This reminds me of a sitch we mauled over a few weeks ago. Good call blue. But I'm waiting for someone to come along and confuse us by saying something like "The run doesn't count since the batter-runner didn't reach 1st."

:/

True. For the second out. There's the difference, the third out was a common timing play.

Dakota Thu May 19, 2005 02:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Alameda
This reminds me of a sitch we mauled over a few weeks ago. Good call blue. But I'm waiting for someone to come along and confuse us by saying something like "The run doesn't count since the batter-runner didn't reach 1st."

:/

Well, that only applies to the third out!

EDIT: I should refresh before I post! ;)


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