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peteraus Mon Nov 29, 2004 05:03am

Hi there can anyone give me a definitive answer on the following?

Fastball. Batter in the box. Ball is pitched. It is inside. Batter attempts to avoid being hit. The ball hits the batter on the arm just below the elbow and bounces off and hits the bat. Umpire calls foul. Given that the ball hit the batter first should it not be a walk.
Umpire claims that whether the ball hit the batter's arm first is irrelevant. Walk or foul?

Regards,

Pete

whiskers_ump Mon Nov 29, 2004 05:58am

Pete,

:eek:
"DEAD BALL" as soon as it hit the batter, therefore
nothing else could happen.


Welcome to the board.

peteraus Mon Nov 29, 2004 06:13am

thanks
 
sorry to be obtuse but dead ball = walk?

and if that is the case it confirms my belief that whatever happens after the batter is hit is irrelevant.

Nice to be aboard. Played a bit of baseball but am not as confident about softball rules.

Pete.

whiskers_ump Mon Nov 29, 2004 06:16am

Pete,

Sorry, Yes, HBP. If batter made an effort to avoid the pitch, as stated,
then s/he is entitled to 1B.

whiskers_ump Mon Nov 29, 2004 06:20am

Pete,

Notice by your profile you are from Australia.

How is the FP (fastpitch) action down under?
Some of the best pitchers I ever saw came from
Australia.


peteraus Mon Nov 29, 2004 06:47am

thanks again. will have words with the ump next time i see him. :)

Pete

peteraus Mon Nov 29, 2004 07:33am

I play 3rd grade mens and the standard is pretty ordinary. But we have fun. Out team are mainly boring old farts who are trying to relive our youth.

I umpired a 2nd grade womens game last week and was amazed at how low the standard was, particularly the pitching.

I should point out that our comp is in Newcastle which is a regional area near Sydney so the standard would not be up to a capital city.

Where are you?

whiskers_ump Mon Nov 29, 2004 07:37am

I am in East Texas, where play pretty much year round.
Take off the last week of Dec., and first week of Jan. Then we start up again. That is if the rain does not stop us. I do AFA, ASA, USSSA, NSA, NFHS and some college. All fastpitch.

whiskers_ump Mon Nov 29, 2004 07:39am

Pete,

If we don't stop using this as a message center, Mick
is gonna get out a**es...I have yahoo messenger if it
is available to you.

Sorry Mick...:D

greymule Wed Dec 01, 2004 02:51pm

<b>Umpire claims that whether the ball hit the batter's arm first is irrelevant.</b>

Omigod.


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