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Bandit Thu Jun 10, 2004 09:12am

FUBLUE has spoken of being a UIC this weekend and what kins of topics umpires like or would like to have gone over prior to the games. I'd like to ask another UIC question. What is the most liked or disliked umpire / field rotation schedule. Any ideas or thoughts on what makes a good schedule. I'm setting up a 4 field rotation for a tournament being held in a couple of weeks. And am looking for some ideas. With games being delayed due to team strength, weather, time limits, run rules, injuries, ect. Is their any really good rotation that allows umpires to not stay on the same diamond on a particlar day. For instance this week-end I'm umpiring a tournament that the UIC has already called and stated that each field with follow the 2 on and 1 off format. Plate, Base, Off, Plate, Base, Off, ect, ect, ect.

FUBLUE Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:29am

Bandit you know my theory on all of this...give me the plate ;)

I prefer 4 umpires to a diamond...depending on situation of the weekend, either a 2 on, 2 off rotation, or a 1 on, 1 off rotation. First gives you two partners; Second gives you one partner all day.

It's hard to get a rotation that let's you switch diamonds unless you have more than 4 per field. Then you could get 2 on, 3 off, switching diamonds.

I prefer 2 on, 1 off with three umpires. With four I prefer 2 on, 2 off, unless it's really hot, then 1 on, 1 off.

mcrowder Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:35pm

You can do it easily with 3 umpires per field. Say 3 fields, 9 umpires:

1: Plate1, Base1, Off, Plate2, Base2, Off, Plate3, Base3, Off, repeat and stir.
2: B1, Off, P2, B2, same rotation...
3: Off, P2, B2, off, etc.
4: P2, B2, Off, P3, etc.
5: B2, Off, P3, B3, etc... you get the point.

DaveASA/FED Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:37pm

Hey FUBlue,
Where are you at this weekend? I was suppose to be down in southern Indiana but I just got an email that they have enough umpires and won't need me.

Bandit Thu Jun 10, 2004 01:25pm

hey, you still want to work ?
 
Hey, Call Plfdblue. Or e-mail me. Fast Pitch tournament in Plfd this week-end. 24 teams. ASA. All age groups. Just got a call from the UIC looking for Saturday afternoon and Sunday blues. Nice Park. Good Group.

FUBLUE Thu Jun 10, 2004 02:08pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mcrowder
You can do it easily with 3 umpires per field. Say 3 fields, 9 umpires:

1: Plate1, Base1, Off, Plate2, Base2, Off, Plate3, Base3, Off, repeat and stir.
2: B1, Off, P2, B2, same rotation...
3: Off, P2, B2, off, etc.
4: P2, B2, Off, P3, etc.
5: B2, Off, P3, B3, etc... you get the point.

I did a similar rotation several years ago at a tourney...had 12 umpires for 4 diamond.

I hated it and vowed never to do it again. Due to one diamond running way late, one umpire would have (in essence) worked 4 games straight if the schedule would have continued. I was able to juggle schedule so I could do the game and had an "assistant UIC" (read as experienced umpire) take control of protests, etc., while I was on the game.

It looks really good on paper, but unless we have drop-dead time limits, etc., or really good teams and finish 7 innings in time limit, then we could be in for trouble. If one diamond gets off, we could be in really bad trouble.

FInd it is easier to try to match umpires with people they don't normally work with, and put them together all day on one diamond, instead of jumping diamonds (if we use 3 per diamond).


FUBLUE Thu Jun 10, 2004 02:09pm

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveASA/FED
Hey FUBlue,
Where are you at this weekend? I was suppose to be down in southern Indiana but I just got an email that they have enough umpires and won't need me.

The deep south...Evansville. UIC for 16A part of D. O. S.

Bandit is looking for help in PFLD and so is KILLER in ANDERSON.

whiskers_ump Thu Jun 10, 2004 07:17pm

Re: hey, you still want to work ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bandit
Hey, Call Plfdblue. Or e-mail me. Fast Pitch tournament in Plfd this week-end. 24 teams. ASA. All age groups. Just got a call from the UIC looking for Saturday afternoon and Sunday blues. Nice Park. Good Group.

Bandit,
Tried to e-mail, they would not allow it. Where is your
tournament? Mine got washed out this weekend.

Skahtboi Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:15pm

Re: Re: hey, you still want to work ?
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by whiskers_ump
Quote:

Tried to e-mail, they would not allow it. Where is your tournament? Mine got washed out this weekend.
If it looks like that is going to happen again this weekend, you and Rick head up this way. There are three tournaments that I know of in the area, and all of them are needing help. Two are ASA, one is USSSA, all are FP.


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