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Curious to find out how prevalant the use of lineup cards is among SP umpires other than in a tournament situation.
As a new blue, I notice that most leagues rely on an official scorer to keep the book but I do not notice any umpires maintaining a lineup card of their own. Initially, I started this season out by providing each team a lineup card (mulit-part carbonless form) which seemed a bit of overkill for the leagues I work. As much as I would like to follow the "culture" of the leagues, I want to be sure to present myself in a professional manner that my ASA training has afforded me. Your thoughts?
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Mon May 03, 2004, 05:34pm
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Highly recommended if you can get the AA to write one.
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Officiating takes more than OJT. It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
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Mon May 03, 2004, 06:38pm
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"Coach, I need a line-up card before we start. Oh, by the way, the game clock started 30 seconds ago.
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The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
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Mon May 03, 2004, 08:10pm
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Tue May 04, 2004, 01:44pm
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Wed May 05, 2004, 06:59am
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I have been doing Rec. Council level Baseball & Softball for over 20 years, and I have NEVER seen a line up card.
They usually appear at big Invitational Tournaments. I do not provide them. . However I should also mention, most Rec. Council leagues have rules where everyone who shows up is in the batting order.
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Wed May 05, 2004, 09:50am
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Wed May 05, 2004, 09:56am
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Home teams book is the "official" book for line-ups.
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Wed May 05, 2004, 12:08pm
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I might add that in Rec leagues the game time limit and nightly, packed schedule leaves little time to administer line-up cards during a contest. I guess I will save it for tournament play.
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"We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done." Chris Z. Detroit/SE Michigan
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Wed May 05, 2004, 01:39pm
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A properly completed line-up card is an important tool for an umpire.
It can keep the umpire and teams out of sticky situations. I do not work a game without one and I don't care how long it takes. The coaches are told before the season to have them available. The league supplies them. However, that doesn't mean it isn't a fight, but I always win!
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Wed May 05, 2004, 02:19pm
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Scott It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to paint it.
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Wed May 05, 2004, 03:51pm
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Around here (Nevada) they use a game card that each team fills out. One side is the lineup and the other is a scoreboard type card to keep track of the runs.
No scorekeepers here, blues keep track of the runs and their count is final. I tell the teams that I will announce the runs at the end of the 1/2 inning and corrections can be talked about at that time. If they come back to me after we have thrown a pitch to start the inning, tough luck no matter what their wives/girlfriends score book says. I have never had anyone ask me about BOO in a rec league game.
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