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DaveASA/FED Wed Apr 28, 2004 01:04pm

Had my first example where the new ASA obstruction would have been called but under FED it was a good play. R1 on third passed ball goes slightly toward first base side, pitcher covers the plate right foot beside plate and left knee on ground on third base side. Ball coming, R1 coming, R1 slides into pitcher as ball hits mitt. Under new ASA rules since she blocked the base without control, I would have OBS and R1 awarded home. But in Fed IMO F1 was about to recieve the ball and had the right to be there, R1 slid into F1's foot never touching the base, so F1 picked up the ball and tagged R1 out. 3rd base coach didn't like it as she was sure her runner had touched the plate, but the foot print 3" from the plate convinced me I was right, not her but it did it for me!!

IRISHMAFIA Wed Apr 28, 2004 01:38pm

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Originally posted by DaveASA/FED
Had my first example where the new ASA obstruction would have been called but under FED it was a good play. R1 on third passed ball goes slightly toward first base side, pitcher covers the plate right foot beside plate and left knee on ground on third base side. Ball coming, R1 coming, R1 slides into pitcher as ball hits mitt. Under new ASA rules since she blocked the base without control, I would have OBS and R1 awarded home. But in Fed IMO F1 was about to recieve the ball and had the right to be there, R1 slid into F1's foot never touching the base, so F1 picked up the ball and tagged R1 out. 3rd base coach didn't like it as she was sure her runner had touched the plate, but the foot print 3" from the plate convinced me I was right, not her but it did it for me!!
Dave,

That's gotta be a tough call, maybe even a "wreck". If the ball didn't hit the glove prior to or at the exact same moment the runner contacted the pitcher, it was obstruction unless NFHS defines "about to receive" differently than ASA.


Skahtboi Wed Apr 28, 2004 02:34pm

"About to receive" is interpreted in NFHS is much the same way that ASA used to interpret it.

Skahtboi Wed Apr 28, 2004 02:36pm

Just wait til next year. I have a strong feeling that NFHS will have the same wording for OBS that ASA currently has.

DaveASA/FED Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:54pm

Mike,
I see what you are saying and the ball got there just an instant prior to the runner hitting the F1's back side, actually I think that is what made her drop the ball. But since the runner had not touched yet,and F1 was getting the ball to tag her, I delayed the call until she touched her.

WestMichBlue Thu Apr 29, 2004 01:36pm

"pitcher covers the plate right foot beside plate and left knee on ground on third base side"

You wouldn't see this type of play in HS Baseball (or college SB?). Let's let the girls wear steel and we can quit arguing about what or what is not obs/int.

WMB

IRISHMAFIA Thu Apr 29, 2004 03:27pm

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Originally posted by WestMichBlue
"pitcher covers the plate right foot beside plate and left knee on ground on third base side"

You wouldn't see this type of play in HS Baseball (or college SB?). Let's let the girls wear steel and we can quit arguing about what or what is not obs/int.

WMB

They must be getting soft. When I was playing, you dropped that knee regardless of what the runner was wearing. Of course, we were young and stupid, and a scar from being spiked was like a badge of courage.

Now that we are older, we are supposed to be smarter. Or, at least, that's what they keep telling me.



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