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whiskers_ump Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:15pm

During game tonight, had this happen.

R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B, no outs. Batter hits a line drive between
F5 and F6, R2 takes off at the crack of the bat. R1 hesitates.
F7 makes a great catch. R2 going full tilt, passes R1 who had only
taken a couple steps toward HP. R1 tags and goes home without a
throw being made. 1 out on the catch, 2nd out on R2 passing R1.
Defensive coach calls time and wants to appeal R1 out of leaving
early [not re-tagging]
Also informs me that the run cannot score since the appeal
would make the 3rd out.

IRISHMAFIA Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:05pm

Quote:

Originally posted by whiskers_ump
During game tonight, had this happen.

R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B, no outs. Batter hits a line drive between
F5 and F6, R2 takes off at the crack of the bat. R1 hesitates.
F7 makes a great catch. R2 going full tilt, passes R1 who had only
taken a couple steps toward HP. R1 tags and goes home without a
throw being made. 1 out on the catch, 2nd out on R2 passing R1.
Defensive coach calls time and wants to appeal R1 out of leaving
early [not re-tagging]
Also informs me that the run cannot score since the appeal
would make the 3rd out.

Tell the D coach to sit down, two outs is all he is going to get on the play. Even as stupid a play R2 executed, you can only put him/her out once on the same play.


whiskers_ump Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:23pm

Mike,

I think that R2 was still thinking about the monster "slam"
she hit an inning earlier. She had slam, (was batting 5th)
leadoff batter had two long shots. This team is undefeated
and R2's coach was some kinda hot at her. They made it to
the third round in playoffs last year. Should go to State
this year. But with plays like that, never know.

Ed Maeder Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:09am

I think the defensive coach had a legal appeal on R1 not tagging up, but whiskers said she did go back and tag third. R1 was on third and her run would not count if she was called out on the appeal. It must be late in Delaware.

[Edited by Ed Maeder on Apr 17th, 2004 at 01:11 AM]

IRISHMAFIA Sun Apr 18, 2004 08:37am

Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Maeder
I think the defensive coach had a legal appeal on R1 not tagging up, but whiskers said she did go back and tag third. R1 was on third and her run would not count if she was called out on the appeal. It must be late in Delaware.

[Edited by Ed Maeder on Apr 17th, 2004 at 01:11 AM]

Late in Delaware? Is it even daylight in Alaska yet?

Ed, you cannot put out the one player twice on the same play. Therefore you can only get two out here which will not negate the run as the inning isn't ending.

You can have a fourth out, or the option of which play for a third out, but you cannot call R2 out twice for two separate outs.


WestMichBlue Sun Apr 18, 2004 09:38am

"Late in Delaware? Is it even daylight in Alaska yet?"

Come on, Mike - lift the shade and let the light in! The appeal is on R1. As in ONE! You know - Numero Uno!

Batter is out #1. RTWO out for passing RONE. The Third Out would be for a successful appeal on RUno for leaving early.

Glen said that the R1 did not leave early, so the appeal would be denied. But it was still a legitimate appeal.

WMB

Ed Maeder Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:18pm

Thanks WMB it sure looks good to me and the sun is up about 16 hours a day and we don't have to use lights on the fields. As a matter a fact pretty soon we will be playing all night with no lights.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Apr 18, 2004 01:01pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Maeder
Thanks WMB it sure looks good to me and the sun is up about 16 hours a day and we don't have to use lights on the fields. As a matter a fact pretty soon we will be playing all night with no lights.
Okay, y'all beat me on this one.

After reading the original scenario a few times, I see how I confused myself.

If the appeal on R1 was upheld, stating that the run wouldn't score is more redundant than the name of the band Duran Duran.

Since Glen stated that R1 properly touched before advancing, I just assumed the appeal be on the runner which obviously left early.

My bad.



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