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Bluefoot Mon Mar 22, 2004 09:25am

Men's ASA SP Rec League. R1 on 1B. A pitch to B2 either hits the ground before reaching home plate, or hits the plate, or hits the batter. The PU properly calls "Dead Ball, Ball". The catcher then proceeds to throw the return of the ball to the pitcher over the pitcher's head, into center field. Does the dead ball remain a dead ball once it's initially called, or does it now become a live ball, as in Rule 8, Sec. 4, Art. G-2, and R1 can then advance?

Thanks,

JEL Mon Mar 22, 2004 09:30am

A dead ball stays dead until umpire revives it!

A player can not do anything to make it live.

buddha69 Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:21am

Quote:

Originally posted by JEL
A dead ball stays dead until umpire revives it!

A player can not do anything to make it live.


I believe JEL is right on that.


VaASAump Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:22am

Which also means that the runners cannot leave the base legally until Rule 8, Sec 4, Art G is met.

Bluefoot Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:49am

So then, do I have to say "Play Ball" in order for play to resume, or is it assumed that the ball is live once the pitcher gets the ball back and is in the vicinity of the rubber?


IRISHMAFIA Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:17pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Bluefoot
So then, do I have to say "Play Ball" in order for play to resume, or is it assumed that the ball is live once the pitcher gets the ball back and is in the vicinity of the rubber?


What did you do before?


Bluefoot Mon Mar 22, 2004 01:44pm

Well, when you put it that way, the answer is simple! Of course I have to say "Play Ball!" after I've declared a dead ball in order for play to resume. I just managed to confuse myself. Thanks.

IRISHMAFIA Mon Mar 22, 2004 03:38pm

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Originally posted by Bluefoot
Well, when you put it that way, the answer is simple! Of course I have to say "Play Ball!" after I've declared a dead ball in order for play to resume. I just managed to confuse myself. Thanks.
Sean,

Did you say, "Play Ball" after every pitch not hit? Of course, you didn't even though every situation was a dead ball event.

azbigdawg Mon Mar 22, 2004 07:21pm

The best way to handle it is to say "play" or something similar after EVERY time you kill it... that avoids any confusion....

CecilOne Thu Mar 25, 2004 04:05pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JEL
A dead ball stays dead until umpire revives it!
Hadn't heard that in a long time. Thanks for the reminder!


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