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Old Sat Jun 30, 2018, 05:05pm
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It’s funny how it’s always the defense that is whining that a infield fly was not called… The rule is in place to protect the offense from cheap double play, not to give the defense of free out.

“It was not ordinary effort coach. End of conversation.”
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Old Sun Jul 01, 2018, 07:35am
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Good call on no IFF.
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Old Sun Jul 01, 2018, 06:13pm
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This is purely a judgment call. You say HTBT, but we need someone who was actually there to render an opinion as to whether the on field official exercised good judgment.

I worked with a partner who called an IF too quickly. It landed 30 over F6's head and that was after he was running after it. The offense was none too pleased. We probably could have reversed it, but no one asked my partner to check with me, and I wasn't about to interject into a $h!t storm he created.

We discussed it after the game, and he still wasn't fully convinced that it wasn't an IF. One tip I gave him was that if he sees the number on the back of an infielder's jersey, it likely is not an IF.
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Old Sun Jul 01, 2018, 08:13pm
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I agree on good call/no call. That's why the "easily caught" is there in the rule.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2018, 07:16am
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It’s funny how it’s always the defense that is whining that a infield fly was not called…
Funny how it's always the team who's getting their ass beat that has a coach confront you with a profane tirade...

I've had similar plays and a "no-call" for the same reason. When the defense cries, "Why no infield fly?', I've reminded them about the "ordinary effort" clause of the rule. Often, they don't believe that and think that you're just making stuff up. Sorry, I can't be responsible for your rule ignorance.

But, I have said, "The ball has to be catchable with ordinary effort. The fact that it wasn't caught demonstrates that it was not ".
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2018, 07:50am
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The fact that it wasn't caught demonstrates that it was not .
Just for clarity to all, there can be an ordinary effort hit which is not caught.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2018, 08:04am
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Just for clarity to all, there can be an ordinary effort hit which is not caught.
Sure. But when the fielder had to run and dive for it, that should reinforce the fact that it wasn't ordinary effort.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2018, 08:39am
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Sure. But when the fielder had to run and dive for it, that should reinforce the fact that it wasn't ordinary effort.
Of course, I wasn't debating that.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2018, 09:59am
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Cecil, this weekend I had an IF called between the PP and 1B.

F1, F3 and F4 (3 feet apart from each other) stood and watched the ball hit the ground between them.

Landed 10' fair, lots o' spin, headed foul, F3 for some reason makes a desperate attempt to grab it, and touches it fair.

Imagine the chaos that ensued (the offense was just as unclear what to do).

These were 18s.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2018, 01:59pm
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Sounds like a good call

If you have to dive, it's not ordinary.
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