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jmkupka Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:56am
Thanks Steve, absolutely fine with that.

For the record, I did not include that comment when submitting my question to NCAA. That was my own side-attempt at knowing something :)

Dakota Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 1010045)
And out of the 100k times a day the opportunity arises, just how many times does a pitcher just wander outside the circle or drop the ball or feign a play? As previously noted, that was part the garbage the LBR was created to eliminate.
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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 1010108)
If I were the rules editor, you would have a difficult getting me to codify what happens when the umpire DOESN'T follow approved mechanics. Because the right answer when F6 requests time in that instance is to not grant it, until the ball is in the circle, because we don't grant time to stop play... Any other time, F6 needs to get the ball to F1 in the circle. If F6 cannot accomplish that, then the runners need to be free to advance, not limited by the umpire...
Unless, of course, we judge it to be rare that something might happen! ;)

IRISHMAFIA Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:08pm
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 1010115)
Unless, of course, we judge it to be rare that something might happen! ;)
You mean like a pitch or batted ball hitting a bird in flight? Don't see too many rules addressing that. :)

Manny A Tue Oct 17, 2017 08:28am
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Originally Posted by jmkupka (Post 1010107)
have submitted a request for a rules interpretation to Vickie Van Kleeck, NCAA Softball Secretary-Rules Editor, regarding application of 9.4.3.1 when there are no other runners on base except OBS runner.
I asked Vickie as well. Haven't heard anything back from her.

jmkupka Mon Oct 30, 2017 01:29pm
Nor have I... I'm guessing they don't respond personally to individual inquiries, rather they post the more interesting ones in their next release of Ask Dee.

As with almost every other controversial interp I find on this forum, this one faced immediate rejection among my peers.

I really hope to see Dee's/Vickie's response somewhere. This play will happen someday, Im sure of it...

RKBUmp Mon Oct 30, 2017 01:39pm
If they come back with the obstruction is cancelled as soon as the runner touches the base they would have reached then the rule really needs to be rewritten. The rule states an obstructed runner cannot be put out between the 2 bases where obstructed and then gives the requirements to cancel that protection. If those requirements are not met there is no other exception to call a runner out between those 2 bases.

Manny A Mon Oct 30, 2017 01:47pm
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Originally Posted by jmkupka (Post 1010794)
Nor have I... I'm guessing they don't respond personally to individual inquiries, rather they post the more interesting ones in their next release of Ask Dee.

As with almost every other controversial interp I find on this forum, this one faced immediate rejection among my peers.

I really hope to see Dee's/Vickie's response somewhere. This play will happen someday, Im sure of it...
Still haven't heard back from Vickie. Haven't seen anything posted in the other forums where this was discussed either.

teebob21 Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 1010796)
Still haven't heard back from Vickie. Haven't seen anything posted in the other forums where this was discussed either.
I sent in a rule clarification request thru the Arbiter link to Vickie a couple years back. It took almost three weeks, but I got a direct (and solid) answer eventually.


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