Legal pitch?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Then it is a completely legal pitch. If her feet are in a legal position to start she is in fact pushing off from the pitching plate even though her heel lifts off.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

This^^^

For all those in the "must be in contact" when releasing the ball corner, I doubt that 95% of the pitches thrown meet such a demand.

Sure, but if (for example) you had in your association an umpire who was also a lawyer, he would point out that the pitch is illegal by the letter of the rule.

That argument does work, doesn't it?

[RKBUmp]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Sure, but if (for example) you had in your association an umpire who was also a lawyer, he would point out that the pitch is illegal by the letter of the rule.

That argument does work, doesn't it?

And then you point out the very next rule says the pivot foot must remain in contact with the ground and drag away from the pitching plate. How can the foot remain in contact with the pitching plate at the time the ball is released if it is dragging away from the pitching plate?

I had this argument from a coach one time who was mad I was calling his pitcher illegal for leaping. He came out with a rule book and by this point it was almost comical so I let him do it. He pointed to the rule about the foot being in contact with the pitching plate. At that time the rest of the rule was on the next page. I said yep, now turn the page and I pointed to the next rule and told him to get back in the dugout.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

And then you point out the very next rule says the pivot foot must remain in contact with the ground and drag away from the pitching plate. How can the foot remain in contact with the pitching plate at the time the ball is released if it is dragging away from the pitching plate?

I had this argument from a coach one time who was mad I was calling his pitcher illegal for leaping. He came out with a rule book and by this point it was almost comical so I let him do it. He pointed to the rule about the foot being in contact with the pitching plate. At that time the rest of the rule was on the next page. I said yep, now turn the page and I pointed to the next rule and told him to get back in the dugout.

I wasn't making a serious argument... I was poking at a similar argument made in another thread.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I wasn't making a serious argument... I was poking at a similar argument made in another thread.

But wouldn't a lawyer be the best one to determine a legal pitch?

Or maybe this is a paralegal pitch.

Does the legality of this pitch involve tort?

Now I make a motion to exclude.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

But wouldn't a lawyer be the best one to determine a legal pitch?...

Nah... you'd need a judge for that. The lawyer would just try to get the illegal pitch off...

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Nah... you'd need a judge for that. The lawyer would just try to get the illegal pitch off...

There's a lawyer on both sides.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Sure, but if (for example) you had in your association an umpire who was also a lawyer, he would point out that the pitch is illegal by the letter of the rule.

That argument does work, doesn't it?

But you honor, citing the published interpretation and direction concerning this point, RS#40.F clearly notes, "Dragging OR pushing off with the pivot foot from the pitcher's plate is required".