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CecilOne Fri May 06, 2016 11:55am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 987224)
Steve:

My definition is jewelry is very simple: If you weren't wearing when you came out of the womb, it is jewelry. :p!

MTD, Sr.

So no uniforms or other garments?? ;) :p :D

Tru_in_Blu Fri May 06, 2016 11:58am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 987224)
Steve:

My definition is jewelry is very simple: If you weren't wearing when you came out of the womb, it is jewelry. :p!

MTD, Sr.

Including eyeglasses, braces on teeth (especially the brightly-colored designer versions), or an insulin pump either attached to a belt or in a back pocket?

BretMan Fri May 06, 2016 07:48pm

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Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 987172)
I think the rule is unfair because it takes away what would have been a fair ball and possible home run from the offense.

The rule didn't take anything away from the offense...the defense did!

Why reward the batter if she didn't hit the ball well enough for it to be out of the fielder's reach. If you want a home run, hit it higher next time!

IRISHMAFIA Fri May 06, 2016 09:12pm

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Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 987172)
This was my thought as well, however the umpire in question, who is also in charge of officials for our state athletic association said it is a 2 base award.

As others have said, when a fair batted ball is deflected out of play it is a 2 base award. If this situation actually happened, as it was presented, I would have gotten it wrong.

I'm torn on my opinion of this rule. I think the rule is unfair because it takes away what would have been a fair ball and possible home run from the offense. At the same time, for the defense to come over and make a play to touch the ball, means they likely have made a very good play just to get in position for this to happen.

So you consider it unfair if a defender leaps, reaches over the fence and catches a ball in flight that would have been a home run save a great defensive play? The offense failed.

OTOH, if the ball is short of the fence, but deflects off a player without hitting the ground or fence and clears the fence in fair territory, the batter-runner is awarded a HR/4B award even though it was undeserved. But the defense failed.

IMO, no problem with this rule and is consistent throughout the game.

BlueDevilRef Fri May 06, 2016 09:49pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 987168)
Guess you need to read the other responses :) It is a 2 base award

I believe it is 8.4.3.H for NFHS



2 bases because it went dead?if over in fair it would be four bases?

Just clarifying bc we all know it's gonna happen in my next game if I don't check!

CecilOne Sat May 07, 2016 06:36am

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Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 987255)
2 bases because it went dead?if over in fair it would be four bases?

Yes.

IRISHMAFIA Sat May 07, 2016 07:13am

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 987264)
Yes.

What he said


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