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MikeZ Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:49pm

Interference??
 
R1 is on first. Ball hit to SS, throws to 2B to get R1 forced out and attempts to throw to 1B to turn a double play. Does R1 need to "get out of the way of the thrown ball"? If it hits her is there interference or is it a live ball?

Linknblue Sun Dec 27, 2015 02:04pm

If she interferes with the throw after she's out she's out for interference. Nothing's automatic. You have to judge whether she interfered on the play. Intentional or not.

RKBUmp Sun Dec 27, 2015 02:46pm

The runner has to commit some act of interference, simply being exactly where they are suppose to be while running the bases is not an act of interference. Peeling off and getting in the way of the throw would be an act of interference.

BlueDevilRef Sun Dec 27, 2015 04:49pm

Or intentionally not getting out of the way while in base path after being retired can be judged as interference, which causes ball to become dead immediately


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IRISHMAFIA Sun Dec 27, 2015 09:42pm

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Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 974333)
Or intentionally not getting out of the way while in base path after being retired can be judged as interference, which causes ball to become dead immediately


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Not in any real softball game. :)

At no time is a retired runner required to evacuate an area to avoid being hit by a thrown ball. Not commiting an act of interference is not interference.

BlueDevilRef Mon Dec 28, 2015 09:07am

And a Retired runner is no longer entitled to a base path. My point was you have to judge the intent. If it happens bang bang, it's likely ok. But you don't get to just take your sweet time lollygagging in base path if you were put out 10 seconds before the throw


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Andy Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:10am

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Originally Posted by Linknblue (Post 974322)
If she interferes with the throw after she's out she's out for interference. Nothing's automatic. You have to judge whether she interfered on the play. Intentional or not.


Just a small correction here since a player can't be "out" twice on the same play.....

If a retired runner interferes, then the ball is dead and the runner closest to home is declared out.

Rich Ives Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:24am

So one can just hit the runner to get a DP?

CecilOne Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:35am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 974373)
So one can just hit the runner to get a DP?

If you want to sit on the bench. :rolleyes:

Tru_in_Blu Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:39am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 974373)
So one can just hit the runner to get a DP?

What?? Who said that?

BlueDevilRef Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:58am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 974373)
So one can just hit the runner to get a DP?


I never said that. The onus is on the offense to not interfere. Period. If in your judgement they do that, award the DP. And interference does not need to be an overt act, it can be a simple omission of action as well. To the OP, this very very rarely happens by the way.


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RKBUmp Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:19am

And the definition of interference requires some act of interference. Simply being exactly where they are suppose to be is not an act of interference.

BlueDevilRef Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:30am

Yep, and I'm saying a retired running is no longer entitled to that space, thus the "act" that you are requiring


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RKBUmp Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:33am

That is not an act of interference. Nothing in the rules requires the runner to immediately disappear after they are put out.

umpjim Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:50am

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Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 974382)
Yep, and I'm saying a retired running is no longer entitled to that space, thus the "act" that you are requiring


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I don't know about the softball codes but in baseball continuing to run the bases is not by that act alone INT.
Per Wendelstedt:
BR overruns 1B on a fly to behind 1B. F3 makes catch and throws to get R3 tagging or whatever. Throw hits the retired BR. Nothing.
On DP ball retired R1 slides legally into 2B and takes out pivot man. Legal.
On any play, a retired runner peels off. He is now responsible to avoid a throw.


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