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jmkupka Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:23am
DP/Flex- Illegal Batter
 
Lineup shows a DP, with a Flex in 10th spot. Team has no subs on the bench. Flex bats for someone other than the DP. PU is notified, and the Flex (Illegal batter) is disqualified (not ejected).
With the lineup dropping down from 10 to 9 due to a DQ, do we have a forfeit at this point?

MD Longhorn Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:16pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmkupka (Post 966792)
Lineup shows a DP, with a Flex in 10th spot. Team has no subs on the bench. Flex bats for someone other than the DP. PU is notified, and the Flex (Illegal batter) is disqualified (not ejected).
With the lineup dropping down from 10 to 9 due to a DQ, do we have a forfeit at this point?
What is the minimum number of players you need to play?

jmkupka Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:29pm
I'm thinking in terms of 4.D.2.a., and the Flex is "listed" on the lineup.
Is a DQ different from an EJ, and/or is the Flex considered a lineup entry as it applies to this rule?

SNIPERBBB Thu Sep 17, 2015 02:28pm
g. Placing the FLEX into one of the first nine positions for someone other than the DP's position is considered an illegal substitution. The illegal substitute shall be removed from the game and restricted to the dugout/bench. See Rule 2-57-3 and 3-4-1, 3-4-2, 3-4-3 for additional penalties.

CecilOne Thu Sep 17, 2015 05:03pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmkupka (Post 966805)
I'm thinking in terms of 4.D.2.a., and the Flex is "listed" on the lineup.
Is a DQ different from an EJ, and/or is the Flex considered a lineup entry as it applies to this rule?
The player is penalized, not the position.
A DQ is not the same as an Ejection.
Even if an ejection of a FLEX with no subs, the DP takes over.

EsqUmp Thu Sep 17, 2015 08:33pm
No forfeiture. Play ball.


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