Shifting gears, NFHS/USSF
 

GV pre-season yesterday (NFHS of course), two-man crew.

On my end of the field, an attacker, defender, and keeper all make a play on the ball in the penalty area. Keeper gets control of the ball, while the attacker goes down hurt (incidental, no foul).

Doing only USSF games since last November, my immediate reaction is to yell, "Keeper! Get rid of the ball!" She throws it to the touchline, but it stays a yard in bounds. Great. Tweet.

After the injured player was replaced, the only option I had was a drop ball. Before dropping, I reminded the offensive player that the keeper gave up this ball willingly, hoping she'd take the hint. She didn't, and immediately played the ball to a teammate, who got off a shot. (Easy save.)

Lesson learned: In NFHS, if someone is hurt, just blow the damn whistle (taking advantage into consideration, of course), especially if a keeper has possession. I have to admit, that's one NFHS rule I prefer over FIFA.

Are you aware that for a drop ball in an NFHS game you must have one player from each team participate?

Of course. Why?

If I remember right, in NFHS if you stop for an injury the team with possession when the whistle blows gets an indirect kick.

Is that still the rule?

Correct, if someone has possession. If no-one does -- as was the case when I blew the play dead -- it's a drop ball.

Not what the rule says. It says the ball must be "between two opposing players." It doesn't say equidistant or that opposing players must participate. As long as an opponent is behind the ball, the rule is satisfied.

Which is to say, I'm not going to order a team who doesn't want to participate in a drop ball to do so.

Great point, Eastshire!!!

Of course, interestingly, this precise situation is why FIFA changed the law concerning scoring directly off of a drop ball....

I very much DISLIKE the NFHS rule on the "two opposing players" drop ball.

At the same time, I also HATE the indirect free kick rule when a team has possession. GV game on Tuesday, we had a defender injured in the PA. The play was killed after the ball was cleared out of the penalty area. My partner insisted that the attacking team got a touch on the ball BEFORE the play was killed (I could not disagree, but the defender was right there to challenge). Therefore, we started with an indirect free kick -- a HUGE advantage over the "live run of play" situation when the play was killed. The resulting free kick generated a goal.

A drop ball would have been a much more appropriate call, in my opinion.

It's important to remember that a touch isn't sufficient to generate an IFK restart. It takes "clear possession."

This past Saturday, I had to take away one of about three chances the losing team had because one of their players was face down in the penalty arc. The attackers had played the ball last but touched it heavy and it was 5 yards from anyone when I stopped play. That's not clear possession, so we restarted with a drop ball. (For some reason, the attackers didn't participate.)

Overall, I believe the NFHS has this one right.

CMH, the situation you cite makes for a good discussion as to what is "possession." You'd have to use your best judgment there.

However, a keeper holding the ball is unquestionably possession, and I believe it's far more just to start with an IFK here, rather than a drop ball. In fact, I'd like to see FIFA adopt this rule, when the keeper has possession.

So in the OP, instead of telling the keeper to get rid of the ball, the referee had the option of blowing the play dead right there and after the injury was resolved letting the keeper restart with what amounted to a goal kick.

Is this correct?

Yes, with two major exceptions: offside will apply and a goal cannot be scored directly.

While possession has to be clear, I still MUCH prefer the FIFA/USSF option of a ONE PLAYER drop ball in lieu of an indirect free kick. In the PA, a drop ball that can be picked up by the keeper and PUNTED is much closer to that "same situation" than a kick from the ground. I think it is RIDICULOUS to MOVE defenders 10 yards from the attacking team when stopping for something other than a foul, period.

Nah, he's just reading into it what he wants. The intent of the NFHS rule is obvious. They want the drop ball to be contested by two and only two players. We may or may not like the rule, but the intent is clear.

For your situation, your partner wasn't very wise and probably caused a situation that placed the game out of the balance of fairness to the teams by his insistence. Not good.

Now I will express my opinion that since sporting behavior is so highly stressed in HS games and the rules even require it to be mentioned at the pregame meeting with the head coach and the captain, that the referee has much more basis under NFHS rules than the USSF LOTG to instruct a team to either return the ball to the opponents or to play it backward and not create a scoring opportunity from an IFK which results from an injury situation.

That could have been your way out of what your partner created.

What you prefer is actually the NCAA rule. ;)

I would say I'm reading it in a way that allows us to play the game in the traditional manner.

As a practical matter, I'm not going to order either team to participate or conversely not to participate in a drop ball. If they want to contest it, that's fine; it's their right. If they don't, I'm not going to force them to even though I agree the rule appears to require two opponents.

Ahh yes, Nevada being Nevada. Oh how I miss thee!

Of course, I'm going to get chastised for this, but for a situation where play is stopped with the GK in clear possession by hand, I would do a one-person drop ball that includes the GK. He/she would then have the option to pick up the ball or kick it from the ground (for which a goal could be scored). It's one of those situations that DOES NOT NEED to follow the black and white letter of the law. The NFHS doesn't have ATR's, but if they did, I'm sure this would be allowed. I've seen it happen many times and I've done it a couple of times. All of which have NEVER been challenged by opponents' players or coaches.

NFHS does have an ATR. It's called the case book.

Not for soccer.

A woefully written poor version, at best. Not too different from the NFHS Rule Book, might I add....

RULES BOOKS which are published by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) contain the official rules for high school sports. These books are designed to explain all aspects of the game. They are used by coaches, officials, players and many fans who wish to know more about the rules of the game.

CASE BOOKS are published separately in baseball, basketball, football, softball, and track and field and are a supplement to the rules books. These books contain actual play situations.

OFFICIALS MANUALS have been developed in baseball, basketball, football, softball, and track and field. These manuals are directed specifically to those who wish to enter the field of officiating or to those who wish to improve their competence.

CASE BOOKS AND MANUALS are published as a combination book of the case book and officials manual. They are printed for the sports of volleyball and wrestling.

SPORTS HANDBOOKS in basketball and football have been developed for use by players, coaches, officials and others interested in the game. They include brief histories of the games, procedures followed in developing the rules and emphasizing the philosophy of the rules committees. The football handbook also includes the rules for flag football and touch football.

RULES SIMPLIFIED AND ILLUSTRATED for basketball and football are published annually. These books make use of cartoons and diagrams to clearly explain situations which might otherwise be difficult to comprehend.

The paper case book for soccer is co-printed in the rules book. It is listed separately in Arbiter. Either way, it still exists.

Ok, fair enough. My previous post was taken from the NFHS site. Can you tell me where this situation is listed in the case book?