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Forum: Softball Sat Jun 06, 2020, 02:42pm
Replies: 11
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Posted By AtlUmpSteve
I find the RS a bit wordy, and it may imply a...

I find the RS a bit wordy, and it may imply a contradiction, but it isn't. With runners on 1st and 2nd, if a ground ball assist goes to 2nd as the initial play, isn't the force off for R2 headed to...
Forum: Softball Fri Jun 05, 2020, 01:44pm
Replies: 11
Views: 508
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
I am being blocked from replying, but you are...

I am being blocked from replying, but you are getting bad advice. Will try private message response.

Short answer, force play is ALSO removed when any trail runner is put out, not just BR before...
Forum: Softball Thu May 21, 2020, 06:00pm
Replies: 11
Views: 508
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
NCAA, no run scores, still treated as a force...

NCAA, no run scores, still treated as a force play.

12.10.1 EFFECT

All rules sets, EXCEPT USA, rule on an appeal based on the time of the violation (was it a force out when the base was...
Forum: Softball Wed May 06, 2020, 03:05pm
Replies: 23
Views: 1,134
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
FWIW, I think your scenario has some apparent...

FWIW, I think your scenario has some apparent contradictions that make it difficult to respond definitively.

1) You state there IS interference; more than a few responding question how that even...
Forum: Softball Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:22pm
Replies: 63
Views: 4,001
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
"My Area" may be just a bit larger than many of...

"My Area" may be just a bit larger than many of you, and the game losses you mention.

I have canceled 525 NCAA Div 1 games in 3 different conferences, 450 NAIA/JUCO games, and (just so far) 510...
Forum: Softball Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:33pm
Replies: 20
Views: 478
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
So why do you think any other rules sets are...

So why do you think any other rules sets are different? The cited one base award rule, and specifically the highlighted rule, also only reflect a ball that has been controlled/possessed, and...
Forum: Softball Fri Feb 28, 2020, 05:38pm
Replies: 11
Views: 488
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
To me, in all but NCAA, it is absolutely clear...

To me, in all but NCAA, it is absolutely clear that the correct ruling in your case play is an out; it is a fair batted ball, and the batter-runner initiated the contact.

In NCAA, I think 11.21.7...
Forum: Softball Sat Feb 15, 2020, 10:37pm
Replies: 2
Views: 259
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
I'm going to PM the contact information for an...

I'm going to PM the contact information for an umpire near Capitan (lives in Ruidoso; I just mapquested, they look close) that should be able to give you umpire contacts in that area.

When you are...
Forum: Softball Sat Feb 15, 2020, 10:24pm
Replies: 11
Views: 488
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Now, remember your OP asked about all rules sets,...

Now, remember your OP asked about all rules sets, not just NCAA. And in the post immediately above (so far), I point out a very different ruling in USA and NFHS than your cited 11.21.7.

NCAA...
Forum: Softball Sat Feb 15, 2020, 10:06pm
Replies: 11
Views: 488
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
No, not at all, according to USA Softball or...

No, not at all, according to USA Softball or NFHS.

A batted ball that hits the batter while in the box is a foul ball. Emphasis on batted ball hits batter. USA references "Foul Ball (F)" and...
Forum: Softball Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:26pm
Replies: 11
Views: 488
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Wouldn't it be fair to consider that, once the...

Wouldn't it be fair to consider that, once the batter has advanced, even partially, out of the batter's box, that "contacts a fair batted ball" is the more appropriate rule to cite than "batted ball...
Forum: Softball Mon Feb 03, 2020, 09:10pm
Replies: 20
Views: 848
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Pitcher is on the PP, hands separated. Pause. ...

Pitcher is on the PP, hands separated. Pause.
Takes signal from whomever.

With exception of international (WBSC) rules, which require a 2 second interval with hands together, that is legal...
Forum: Softball Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:41pm
Replies: 1
Views: 197
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Reference Rule 13.1. Then roll it back to EFFECT...

Reference Rule 13.1. Then roll it back to EFFECT (8.9.1 to 8.9.8).

Your reference results in an official warning to both violator(s) and the head coach, when brought to your attention by a coach....
Forum: Softball Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:27pm
Replies: 12
Views: 435
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
My 18-19 book say any part of the foot; 20-21,...

My 18-19 book say any part of the foot; 20-21, while not highlighted as a change says any part of the body.
Forum: Softball Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:25pm
Replies: 12
Views: 435
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Two different "they"s involved. NCAA SUP set...

Two different "they"s involved.

NCAA SUP set the test deadline.
ArbiterSports, by contract to someone OTHER than the SUP, mailed the books. Yes, they were (reportedly) aware of the test...
Forum: Softball Fri Jan 24, 2020, 03:56pm
Replies: 20
Views: 848
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Mike, here's how it got to this point. In my...

Mike, here's how it got to this point. In my words, not the official from NCAA (just like you and I were never to be official for ASA in the day).

For decades, as you know, pitchers stepped on...
Forum: Softball Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:00pm
Replies: 12
Views: 435
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
I believe you mean 11.21.4 and 11.21.5. If...

I believe you mean 11.21.4 and 11.21.5.

If that isn't enough, I can promise you this exact play (took a knee outside the box while bunting) was mentioned at the Atlanta Clinic.
Forum: Softball Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:08pm
Replies: 20
Views: 848
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Here's how this went down. After the rules...

Here's how this went down.

After the rules committee stated rules language, the Coordinators meeting in Indianapolis in mid-August discussed this at length. We left that meeting with a...
Forum: Softball Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:55pm
Replies: 12
Views: 435
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Per Vickie, she is still editing the casebook;...

Per Vickie, she is still editing the casebook; not only to make the adjustments to the new rules, but to drop back and fix other noted errata. So we have to use what is the most current available,...
Forum: Softball Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:10pm
Replies: 12
Views: 435
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Any body part out of the box on the ground at the...

Any body part out of the box on the ground at the moment of contact is an illegally batted ball. Look at Case Book approved rulings, promise you it is there.
Forum: Softball Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:13pm
Replies: 36
Views: 1,586
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Yes, it's still not what was stated in our...

Yes, it's still not what was stated in our meeting, but it is less of of a waffle step to appease (and again allow options where one clear rule would suffice).

Still biting my tongue,...
Forum: Softball Wed Sep 25, 2019, 02:18pm
Replies: 36
Views: 1,586
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
I'm not sure the date of the email which you...

I'm not sure the date of the email which you reference; didn't find it. The most current interpretation is dated 9/11/2019, and states simply:



Edited to add: This interpretation is one of 3...
Forum: Softball Sun Sep 22, 2019, 07:43pm
Replies: 36
Views: 1,586
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
Slick, these days, I am a conference coordinator;...

Slick, these days, I am a conference coordinator; and sat in that meeting when VVK described the rule, discussed the enforcement. You are misunderstanding the meaning of e.g.; it means "for...
Forum: Softball Tue Jun 04, 2019, 09:36pm
Replies: 8
Views: 437
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
But, by rule, not a foreign substance. The rule...

But, by rule, not a foreign substance. The rule 10.13.1 defines illegal foreign substances as something that "would transfer to the ball". What would a band-aid transfer?
Forum: Softball Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:09am
Replies: 9
Views: 1,176
Posted By AtlUmpSteve
There are four things that could happen on the...

There are four things that could happen on the play. The NCAA mechanic prescribed years ago by EA allows the umpire mechanics to be similar regardless which of the four results.
1) Fly caught,...
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