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Forum: Basketball Thu Jun 06, 2019, 09:48am
Replies: 32
Views: 1,523
Posted By so cal lurker
If it makes anyone feel better about buying new...

If it makes anyone feel better about buying new shirts, soccer refs get the pleasure of buying 5 different colors. And long and short sleeves. So when the new shirts came out, for serious level refs,...
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:56am
Replies: 3
Views: 385
Posted By so cal lurker
NPR Story on perception bias

Story about perceptions of what happened first

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/24/716763309/scientists-explain-a-common-fight-in-basketball
Forum: Basketball Sun Apr 14, 2019, 07:34pm
Replies: 1
Views: 521
Posted By so cal lurker
“Ref, You Suck!”

“Ref You Suck!” is the first episode of a new podcast by Michael Lewis (of Liar’s Poker and Money Ball fame) called “Against the Rules.” The first episode is about basketball, including the NBA’s...
Forum: Basketball Tue Apr 09, 2019, 01:07pm
Replies: 12
Views: 445
Posted By so cal lurker
Replay gets implemented to correct obvious...

Replay gets implemented to correct obvious errors. Unfair plays happens because of the limitations on the review. Replay expands. Rinse, repeat.
Forum: Basketball Mon Apr 08, 2019, 12:29pm
Replies: 114
Views: 5,415
Posted By so cal lurker
A bit of class from Coach Pearl: Pearl on...

A bit of class from Coach Pearl:

Pearl on missed double dribble: 'Get over it' (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26470446/get-it)

"The biggest point I want to make, and...
Forum: Basketball Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:35am
Replies: 30
Views: 1,110
Posted By so cal lurker
I was at the other arena last night, and this was...

I was at the other arena last night, and this was on the screens between games. I was in a crowd for the play. The loudest know-it-alls were all confident it could not be a foul because the ball...
Forum: Basketball Fri Mar 29, 2019, 10:55am
Replies: 3
Views: 275
Posted By so cal lurker
I was at that game--alas, pretty high up. I had...

I was at that game--alas, pretty high up. I had the same reaction to both reviews--not much to review, and even if there was, what the heck took so long? (I kinda think if a flagrant wasn't called,...
Forum: Basketball Tue Mar 05, 2019, 02:18pm
Replies: 23
Views: 1,039
Posted By so cal lurker
But what the heck was there to "protest"? He...

But what the heck was there to "protest"? He didn't get to coach the players on how to play defense on a made FT? He though they should wipe the two FTs and have to retake them?

It's also odd...
Forum: Basketball Thu Feb 28, 2019, 12:27pm
Replies: 28
Views: 943
Posted By so cal lurker
I guess it depends on the level of HS ball. My...

I guess it depends on the level of HS ball. My son played in one of the top leagues in Southern California, so maybe I have a biased sample, but . . . .

Three close games ended with his team...
Forum: Basketball Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:23am
Replies: 79
Views: 2,236
Posted By so cal lurker
Personal observations from watching shot clock...

Personal observations from watching shot clock games in California:

Not that common for most teams, even JV or Frosh, to have trouble with the shot clock.

Most possessions that do have an...
Forum: Basketball Mon Feb 04, 2019, 12:02pm
Replies: 48
Views: 1,376
Posted By so cal lurker
What surprises me in this discussion is that you...

What surprises me in this discussion is that you seem to believe that the defensive team won't know this was a violation. In my experience watching games, players and coaches are well aware that...
Forum: Basketball Fri Feb 01, 2019, 02:32pm
Replies: 21
Views: 737
Posted By so cal lurker
Rule schemes rarely have solutions for every...

Rule schemes rarely have solutions for every referee mistake. The proper thing was to not blow the whistle and let the game end. Once the mistake of blowing the whistle is made, you're left with...
Forum: Basketball Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:52am
Replies: 18
Views: 603
Posted By so cal lurker
It can never be just the players that screwed up....

It can never be just the players that screwed up. If only the players screwed up, the referees would have called a 10 second violation or a back court violation.
Forum: Basketball Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:27pm
Replies: 39
Views: 1,507
Posted By so cal lurker
If they adopt adopt a stupid rule that says they...

If they adopt adopt a stupid rule that says they get 15 minutes, you can't forfeit the game because you take affront that he is taking that amount of time to designate his replacement.

I don't...
Forum: Basketball Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:39am
Replies: 39
Views: 1,507
Posted By so cal lurker
15 minutes? That, IMHO, is insane. The other...

15 minutes? That, IMHO, is insane. The other team has to sit around for 15 minutes because the coach is a %#$%. Just like the time for a fouled out player, giving them 15 minutes to do this means...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 26, 2019, 04:14pm
Replies: 7
Views: 398
Posted By so cal lurker
That’s part of what I was wondering. I don’t...

That’s part of what I was wondering. I don’t think they had the ball OOB yet when it happened. So does that mean the T is right, but if they had taken it OOB and were ready to inbound it would have...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:39pm
Replies: 7
Views: 398
Posted By so cal lurker
questions from watching a JV game

Three questions I wasn't sure about from a game before my son's:
(1) TO called. Sub comes in (I believe beckoned by one official) after the TO but well before the ball is ready to be put into play....
Forum: Basketball Mon Jan 21, 2019, 04:47pm
Replies: 89
Views: 2,184
Posted By so cal lurker
That may be what you remember was explained, but...

That may be what you remember was explained, but the POE, which someone posted above, doesn’t say to rme check for PC a second time. (Not, frankly, does it make a whit of sense.). But I still think...
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 20, 2019, 03:34pm
Replies: 89
Views: 2,184
Posted By so cal lurker
I think you’re reading something into the POe...

I think you’re reading something into the POe that isn’t there. It doesn’t say the ref has to check for PC a second time after being sure it is the HC.
Forum: Basketball Thu Jan 17, 2019, 06:24pm
Replies: 29
Views: 1,285
Posted By so cal lurker
Will they both get an extra suspension for not...

Will they both get an extra suspension for not leaving when ejected?
Forum: Basketball Wed Jan 16, 2019, 06:39pm
Replies: 39
Views: 971
Posted By so cal lurker
Seems to me you are making this way too...

Seems to me you are making this way too complicated.

What stopped play? Can't be a violation as there wasn't one. So it has to be the whistle.

The whistle was a mistake--hence...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:58pm
Replies: 64
Views: 1,936
Posted By so cal lurker
That must have been fun. I hope the teams...

That must have been fun. I hope the teams appreciated it!

Many years ago when my daughter was playing in an 8th grade CYO playoff game, they had a three person crew that was clearly an...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:32pm
Replies: 64
Views: 1,936
Posted By so cal lurker
A quick google search shows 37,000 high schools...

A quick google search shows 37,000 high schools in the US. Let's say a about a quarter of them have shot clocks now. That leaves about 28,000 of them. At $7500 per gym (which I believe was the...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jan 14, 2019, 12:01pm
Replies: 13
Views: 521
Posted By so cal lurker
correct.

correct.
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:55pm
Replies: 13
Views: 521
Posted By so cal lurker
And creates the odd scenario where it is better...

And creates the odd scenario where it is better for the team that committed the foul if it is tied than if it has a one point lead. With a tie, they go to OT regardless of the FTs. With a one point...
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