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Forum: Basketball Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:03pm
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Posted By BigCat
Can we sue somebody for that injury? For my...

Can we sue somebody for that injury? For my headache its caused....Its a cluster. They need to start over....
Forum: Basketball Tue Jan 17, 2017, 12:30pm
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Posted By BigCat
It should be a lot clearer etc so i know where...

It should be a lot clearer etc so i know where you are coming from. Here's something I'm thinking..and remembering why i say what I'm saying…in addition to the POE.

How long has the player/team...
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:21pm
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Posted By BigCat
Team control for throwin and until ball secured...

Team control for throwin and until ball secured applies only to fouls. If a foul isn't involved, once ball is touched inbounds we go to regular team control rules. The ball is loose, no team has...
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:31pm
Replies: 54
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Posted By BigCat
There's also another one that addresses the...

There's also another one that addresses the addition of the language"until ball secured." Just expands definition of team control FOUL to include balls tipped and until secured.
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:13pm
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Posted By BigCat
I think that is what I said. 4-19-7 says team...

I think that is what I said. 4-19-7 says team control "foul" is any foul by offense from beginning of throw in until ball secured. That's an artificial definition to make sure offense doesn't shoot...
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 15, 2017, 12:26pm
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Posted By BigCat
Maybe Billy can pull up the POEs. One is 2014/15....

Maybe Billy can pull up the POEs. One is 2014/15. Team control ended when the throw in ended. Ball is now inbounds under no team's control. They added to the definition of team control foul,4-19-7 I...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:17pm
Replies: 54
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Posted By BigCat
The POE from 2014/15 discusses it. There's a...

The POE from 2014/15 discusses it. There's a better one somewhere. I plugged in "throw in point of emphasis" in Internet to find 2014 one...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:54pm
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Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
Preaching to choir. Drives me crazy. Elbow rule...

Preaching to choir. Drives me crazy. Elbow rule really aggravates me. Nothing in rules about it....
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:35pm
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Posted By BigCat
Well, I have had a recent head injury. And I do...

Well, I have had a recent head injury. And I do like to get it right. I wouldn't have to go through gymnastics if they'd put the POEs in rules.
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:32pm
Replies: 54
Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
See Camrons response. You can't get this clearly...

See Camrons response. You can't get this clearly from the rules but the POEs set it out very clearly when rules changes made. Which is obviously why they didn't make it in rules.:o
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:53pm
Replies: 54
Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
No. I'm not stretching. The rules aren't written...

No. I'm not stretching. The rules aren't written clearly. I'd bet my own house on this one. The POEs were very clear and should have made it to a place where they could be looked up. Like in the rule...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:42pm
Replies: 54
Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
Welp, look at 4-19-7. That is definition of team...

Welp, look at 4-19-7. That is definition of team control foul. The first half of it says team control foul is a foul by team in control. If, there was team control after the throw in ended, when...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:28pm
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Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
When B knocked ball out of his hands. That's when...

When B knocked ball out of his hands. That's when the throw in ended. Now, they will still call it a team control foul if A fouks anybody before ball is secured but that is only for foul purposes. ...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:23pm
Replies: 54
Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
Well, this then does look like I had it right....

Well, this then does look like I had it right. Ball is loose, should be no whistle and he just blows it cause feels something wrong. This does go to arrow.

It isn't as if he blew whistle at time...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:10pm
Replies: 54
Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
duh, I've had a recent head injury. The official...

duh, I've had a recent head injury. The official blew the whistle for the contact with the ball. Thrower in was still holding it. Throwin not over. Ball goes back to them. No arrow. I'm sorry. I'm...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:16pm
Replies: 54
Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
He said ball was swiped. Knocked away. He said...

He said ball was swiped. Knocked away. He said A"" was last to have it.presumably he meant because they had it during throw in. I viewed it as ball bouncing around when whistle blew.

There's team...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:02pm
Replies: 54
Views: 3,387
Posted By BigCat
There is team control during a throw in. However,...

There is team control during a throw in. However, when the ball is knocked out of the thrower ins hands the throw in has ended. There's no team control "inbounds." Using the arrow was correct.
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