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Forum: Basketball Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:23am
Replies: 79
Views: 1,545
Posted By so cal lurker
Personal observations from watching shot clock...

Personal observations from watching shot clock games in California:

Not that common for most teams, even JV or Frosh, to have trouble with the shot clock.

Most possessions that do have an...
Forum: Basketball Mon Feb 04, 2019, 12:02pm
Replies: 48
Views: 1,152
Posted By so cal lurker
What surprises me in this discussion is that you...

What surprises me in this discussion is that you seem to believe that the defensive team won't know this was a violation. In my experience watching games, players and coaches are well aware that...
Forum: Basketball Fri Feb 01, 2019, 02:32pm
Replies: 21
Views: 636
Posted By so cal lurker
Rule schemes rarely have solutions for every...

Rule schemes rarely have solutions for every referee mistake. The proper thing was to not blow the whistle and let the game end. Once the mistake of blowing the whistle is made, you're left with...
Forum: Basketball Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:52am
Replies: 18
Views: 530
Posted By so cal lurker
It can never be just the players that screwed up....

It can never be just the players that screwed up. If only the players screwed up, the referees would have called a 10 second violation or a back court violation.
Forum: Basketball Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:27pm
Replies: 39
Views: 1,347
Posted By so cal lurker
If they adopt adopt a stupid rule that says they...

If they adopt adopt a stupid rule that says they get 15 minutes, you can't forfeit the game because you take affront that he is taking that amount of time to designate his replacement.

I don't...
Forum: Basketball Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:39am
Replies: 39
Views: 1,347
Posted By so cal lurker
15 minutes? That, IMHO, is insane. The other...

15 minutes? That, IMHO, is insane. The other team has to sit around for 15 minutes because the coach is a %#$%. Just like the time for a fouled out player, giving them 15 minutes to do this means...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 26, 2019, 04:14pm
Replies: 7
Views: 355
Posted By so cal lurker
Thatís part of what I was wondering. I donít...

Thatís part of what I was wondering. I donít think they had the ball OOB yet when it happened. So does that mean the T is right, but if they had taken it OOB and were ready to inbound it would have...
Forum: Basketball Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:39pm
Replies: 7
Views: 355
Posted By so cal lurker
questions from watching a JV game

Three questions I wasn't sure about from a game before my son's:
(1) TO called. Sub comes in (I believe beckoned by one official) after the TO but well before the ball is ready to be put into play....
Forum: Basketball Mon Jan 21, 2019, 04:47pm
Replies: 89
Views: 1,915
Posted By so cal lurker
That may be what you remember was explained, but...

That may be what you remember was explained, but the POE, which someone posted above, doesn’t say to rme check for PC a second time. (Not, frankly, does it make a whit of sense.). But I still think...
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 20, 2019, 03:34pm
Replies: 89
Views: 1,915
Posted By so cal lurker
I think youíre reading something into the POe...

I think youíre reading something into the POe that isnít there. It doesnít say the ref has to check for PC a second time after being sure it is the HC.
Forum: Basketball Thu Jan 17, 2019, 06:24pm
Replies: 29
Views: 1,181
Posted By so cal lurker
Will they both get an extra suspension for not...

Will they both get an extra suspension for not leaving when ejected?
Forum: Basketball Wed Jan 16, 2019, 06:39pm
Replies: 39
Views: 835
Posted By so cal lurker
Seems to me you are making this way too...

Seems to me you are making this way too complicated.

What stopped play? Can't be a violation as there wasn't one. So it has to be the whistle.

The whistle was a mistake--hence...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:58pm
Replies: 64
Views: 1,604
Posted By so cal lurker
That must have been fun. I hope the teams...

That must have been fun. I hope the teams appreciated it!

Many years ago when my daughter was playing in an 8th grade CYO playoff game, they had a three person crew that was clearly an...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jan 14, 2019, 06:32pm
Replies: 64
Views: 1,604
Posted By so cal lurker
A quick google search shows 37,000 high schools...

A quick google search shows 37,000 high schools in the US. Let's say a about a quarter of them have shot clocks now. That leaves about 28,000 of them. At $7500 per gym (which I believe was the...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jan 14, 2019, 12:01pm
Replies: 13
Views: 456
Posted By so cal lurker
correct.

correct.
Forum: Basketball Sun Jan 13, 2019, 10:55pm
Replies: 13
Views: 456
Posted By so cal lurker
And creates the odd scenario where it is better...

And creates the odd scenario where it is better for the team that committed the foul if it is tied than if it has a one point lead. With a tie, they go to OT regardless of the FTs. With a one point...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jan 07, 2019, 06:20pm
Replies: 38
Views: 1,777
Posted By so cal lurker
As I recall, the NBA tweaked its rule because of...

As I recall, the NBA tweaked its rule because of a play like this in a game involving the Lakers. Late in a close game, ball was awarded to Lakers on an OOB call. Review showed (1) the ball was...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jan 04, 2019, 01:55pm
Replies: 17
Views: 471
Posted By so cal lurker
Non sequitur. Selling it can make it less likely...

Non sequitur. Selling it can make it less likely someone argues, but it can't make the actual call more correct. The call is the call. Selling it is, well, selling it so that others accept it. (I...
Forum: Basketball Thu Jan 03, 2019, 01:32pm
Replies: 20
Views: 694
Posted By so cal lurker
Coach/fan definition of a carry: What the other...

Coach/fan definition of a carry: What the other team's point guard does.

(Maybe I'm delusional with age, but as I watch HS ball, I think about 30-40 carries a game would be called if the standard...
Forum: Basketball Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:02am
Replies: 23
Views: 605
Posted By so cal lurker
while I agree it is a better rule, I have some...

while I agree it is a better rule, I have some doubts about the ability of HS tables to execute.

(I’m also surprised that more HS teams don’t seem to understand the timing rules, and try to...
Forum: Basketball Sun Dec 30, 2018, 12:03pm
Replies: 23
Views: 605
Posted By so cal lurker
Delays in end game

HS. White is winning, black scrambling to catch up. With about thirty seconds left (and no time outs) black scores and a black player grabs the ball and holds it.

Whatís the best way to handle?...
Forum: Basketball Fri Dec 21, 2018, 03:04pm
Replies: 5
Views: 243
Posted By so cal lurker
Iirc, it was the Mayans where the winning captain...

Iirc, it was the Mayans where the winning captain (or whatever the called it) was the sacrifice—it was a high honor.
Forum: Basketball Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:18am
Replies: 14
Views: 586
Posted By so cal lurker
The market will go up or down.

The market will go up or down.
Forum: Basketball Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:41pm
Replies: 15
Views: 643
Posted By so cal lurker
snow balls aren't the worst that soccer folks...

snow balls aren't the worst that soccer folks see. batteries, fireworks, smoke bombs . . . . soccer fans in many countries make BB fans here seem quaint and gentile.
Forum: Basketball Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:35pm
Replies: 31
Views: 1,116
Posted By so cal lurker
Would it be legal if it were a post-score play...

Would it be legal if it were a post-score play after a TO?
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