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Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 09:41pm
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Posted By Raymond
I've stated my position many times, with rules...

I've stated my position many times, with rules references, go back read.
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 08:07pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
I actually quoted and bolded your earlier post...

I actually quoted and bolded your earlier post about a whistle followed by legal foot movements and a pass. In a play such as this where there was either phantom contact or very minimal contact...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:41pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
No one has ever said that. It is one element in...

No one has ever said that. It is one element in judging the play. Sometimes it outweighs other elements, sometimes it doesn't.
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 06:24pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
The rule is based on the judgment of the official...

The rule is based on the judgment of the official blowing his/her whistle.


4-41-2 A try for field goal is an attempt by a player to score two or three points by throwing the ball into a team's...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 06:23pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
Because it is not lazy. There are a lot of...

Because it is not lazy. There are a lot of factors that come into play. Did A1 now have a clear path to basket? Is there 6' 9" shot blocker in front of A1? A1 has made this 4 times in the game...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 03:39pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
As you said, you can't know that. So this...

As you said, you can't know that. So this conversation is what you judge as opposed to what others judge. But those who don't do it your way are lazy. :rolleyes:
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 03:34pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
Officiating entails gathering and processing ALL...

Officiating entails gathering and processing ALL the information at your disposal when making a judgment on a play. It is lazy to turn off your brain the moment contact occurs without considering...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 03:13pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
The whistle has already been blown. So it's...

The whistle has already been blown. So it's either 1 of 2 things:

1) the whistle was premature, and there was no foul to begin with since the player performed normal offensive movements after...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:21pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
It's not that we do not consider this activity...

It's not that we do not consider this activity shooting or that's it not a traditional shot attempt, it's that a try or shot is defined in the rule book, and your scenario comes nowhere close to...
Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:17am
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
That is not a shot attempt....would not even be a...

That is not a shot attempt....would not even be a consideration.
Forum: Basketball Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:20pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
I call it "passing on the contact". Saying...

I call it "passing on the contact". Saying "incidental contact" confuses some coaches. :D
Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:17pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
It doesn't, shooting motion is totally the...

It doesn't, shooting motion is totally the judgment of the official, it is not defined:

4-41 ART. 3

The try starts when the player begins the motion which habitually precedes the release of the...
Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:05pm
Replies: 95
Views: 8,840
Posted By Raymond
Lot more to discuss on this play other than...

Lot more to discuss on this play other than "shooting or not shooting".
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