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Forum: Football Fri Aug 14, 2009, 03:17pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. I didn't say he violated any rules, I was just... I didn't say he violated any rules, I was just wondering what his status is. It sounds like you picked door number 3 - A third state not mentioned in the rule book (in this case "Not out of...

Forum: Football Fri Aug 14, 2009, 02:42pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Allow me to ask a question then. I certainly... Allow me to ask a question then. I certainly understand the arguement that A is not out of bounds. My question is - what is A's status? I can come up with 4 possible answers. A is : 1)...

Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 04:05pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. In the original post, the question was - receiver... In the original post, the question was - receiver A 83 who runs along sideline takes two steps out of bounds and jumps while in air and bats the ball to A87 inbounds who catches the ball and then A83...

Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 03:38pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. I'd love to see it. That might settle it if... I'd love to see it. That might settle it if someone still had the case play.

Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 03:08pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Unfortunately, the NF rules have a "hole" here -... Unfortunately, the NF rules have a "hole" here - they do not define what "inbounds" is, nor do they give the status of a player who is airborne. We can assume, reason and speculate on the status,...

Forum: Football Tue Jul 28, 2009, 03:01pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. This discussion has not been about adjusting,... This discussion has not been about adjusting, altering or ignoring a rule; it's been about deciding on how to best handle an odd play that really isn't covered in the book. If the rule book gave...

Forum: Football Mon Jul 27, 2009, 03:25pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Berkut, I agree with your comments but then here... Berkut, I agree with your comments but then here is the rub. If the player who is no longer out-of-bounds is in-bounds because he jumped: a) he is guilty of IP (even if he doesn't touch the...

Forum: Football Mon Jul 27, 2009, 02:40pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. I think here is what's missing - There is no... I think here is what's missing - There is no defenition of inbounds in the rule book. This whole discussion revolves around a player who is out of bounds and who then jumps in the air. ...

Forum: Football Mon Jul 27, 2009, 08:14am

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Several people claim to have the only one and... Several people claim to have the only one and authorized answer, and that therefore all other opinions or views are wrong. However, the rule as written, does not give the answer and there is nothing...

Forum: Football Fri Jul 24, 2009, 03:45pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Sorry, jaybird. I know this post has gone on way... Sorry, jaybird. I know this post has gone on way too long, but the whole issue is not supported by either rule or logic which is why we have this whole arguement. If the player who jumps is not...

Forum: Football Thu Jul 23, 2009, 01:20pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Not quite! I wasn't at the meeting in Indy, and... Not quite! I wasn't at the meeting in Indy, and no word has come to us nor have I seen anything in print in any official publication relating to this play. It may or may not have been discussed in...

Forum: Football Thu Jul 23, 2009, 10:00am

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. I agree on that. Howeve, the substance of the... I agree on that. Howeve, the substance of the thread was the status of a person who is out of bounds (after having touched the ground out of bounds) and then jumps in the air while still wide of the...

Forum: Football Thu Jul 23, 2009, 09:07am

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. It's the same arguement as above. If you think... It's the same arguement as above. If you think he's inbounds by rule, treat it the same as if he were standing in the middle of the field. If you think he's out of bounds, rule it that way. When...

Forum: Football Tue Apr 21, 2009, 01:51pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Thanks for the suggestion, but I probably won't... Thanks for the suggestion, but I probably won't bother them. This has been more of an "it's April and there isn't much else to discuss right now on the board" arguments. I've worked a long time,...

Forum: Football Mon Apr 20, 2009, 01:40pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Kevin, I wasn't going to post on this... Kevin, I wasn't going to post on this subject again, but I do have to disagree that "by definition, the player was not out of bounds". The rule book does not give us the status of a player...

Forum: Football Fri Apr 10, 2009, 03:56pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. No, you're reading it right. I just happen to... No, you're reading it right. I just happen to disagree with that interpretation. If A is out of bounds and he jumps in the air, I still think he's still out of bounds. To say otherwise is not...

Forum: Football Fri Apr 10, 2009, 01:12pm

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Yes, this is like Schroedinger's cat, the status... Yes, this is like Schroedinger's cat, the status of the ball is undetermined until A1 returns to the ground. If he is forced out and leaps and touches the ball, it is: Live if he returns to...

Forum: Football Fri Apr 10, 2009, 11:16am

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. 1) A1 goes out unforced by B and grabs the pass... 1) A1 goes out unforced by B and grabs the pass and: a) returns first touching out of bounds: Ruling - i) Ball is dead ii) No penalty b) returns to ground in...

Forum: Football Fri Apr 10, 2009, 09:53am

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. One point in this discussion I think needs... One point in this discussion I think needs clarification - If A 1 is running down the sideline and steps out of bounds and then catches the ball or bats it away from inbounds B1, that touching is...

Forum: Football Fri Apr 10, 2009, 08:02am

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. I don't think he'd he changing a rule - A is... I don't think he'd he changing a rule - A is running down the sideline and steps out of bounds. The ball comes his way and, seeing B may intercept, A swats the ball away. He is out of bounds...

Forum: Football Thu Apr 09, 2009, 07:49am

Replies: 207 Reddings guide illegal participation Views: 25,455 Posted By Jim D. Just went through this whole discussion again. ... Just went through this whole discussion again. http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=5202.0

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