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Forum: Basketball Tue Aug 07, 2018, 08:07am
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Posted By SC Official
I'm a former men's college official and hear far...

I'm a former men's college official and hear far more complaints from boys coaches than girls coaches in my area. Now, whether that is just because the girls coaches don't care as much, or are just...
Forum: Basketball Mon Aug 06, 2018, 08:56pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Not in response to anyone, but I know multiple...

Not in response to anyone, but I know multiple women's college or former women's college officials that I'd much rather work high level boys HS games with than some of the men's/former men's...
Forum: Basketball Mon Aug 06, 2018, 03:25pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
I can't speak to women's D3/JUCO versus high...

I can't speak to women's D3/JUCO versus high school. But if you get hired for small college on the men's side, you're likely going to have quite a few games where you won't be impressed with the...
Forum: Basketball Mon Aug 06, 2018, 08:16am
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
I can only speak for my area, and I can tell you...

I can only speak for my area, and I can tell you that it would not be acceptable to the JUCO assigners here.
Forum: Basketball Mon Aug 06, 2018, 08:14am
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
I've worked JUCO men's basketball and don't...

I've worked JUCO men's basketball and don't recall ever working with an official who didn't "count and chop" by the book. And even if someone did it the "unapproved" way, why should I care? That is...
Forum: Basketball Mon Apr 09, 2018, 10:26am
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
I've heard this before, but I've also heard of...

I've heard this before, but I've also heard of women's assigners being grateful to have former men's officials try out for their staffs due to the perceived greater challenge of officiating the men's...
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 05, 2018, 09:34pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
The reasons women don't work men's college are......

The reasons women don't work men's college are...

1) They're unlikely to get hired (just the way it is), and
2) Females with potential move up the ladder very quickly in women's basketball. Much...
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 05, 2018, 04:31pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
That was my intended point-the line has to be...

That was my intended point-the line has to be drawn somewhere. At some point you have to block for college and fulfill your high school game, and that point needs to be before the day of. Not to...
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 05, 2018, 03:12pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
That wouldn't fly here if you care about your...

That wouldn't fly here if you care about your rating for the way high school officiating is set up here. And I actually get it. If you're going to accept a high school game, you shouldn't be open on...
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 05, 2018, 03:09pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
I agree with you from the standpoint that we are...

I agree with you from the standpoint that we are all supposed to be independent contractors (of course that applies to assigners as well, who can pretty much use whatever criteria they want to give...
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 05, 2018, 12:12pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Despite all the pompousness and greediness that...

Despite all the pompousness and greediness that goes on in the college assigning business, I'd say that the majority of D2/D3 supervisors wouldn't pull that crap. Expecting an entry-level official on...
Forum: Basketball Wed Apr 04, 2018, 05:36pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Does the law come down on assigners (high school...

Does the law come down on assigners (high school or college) who tell their officials "you can't work for so-and-so" or "you can't work girls basketball" or "you can't work high school"? Doubtful.
Forum: Basketball Wed Apr 04, 2018, 03:29pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Let's be real, we're only independent contractors...

Let's be real, we're only independent contractors in form and only somewhat in substance. Sure, we can choose to work for whatever assigners we want, until we get told we're not allowed to by a...
Forum: Basketball Wed Apr 04, 2018, 10:49am
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
My "insane" comment was more of just a general...

My "insane" comment was more of just a general reference to JUCO/NAIA/D-3 assigners thinking way more highly of themselves and their sub-$200 games than they ought to.

I agree with you that there...
Forum: Basketball Wed Apr 04, 2018, 09:54am
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Insane how low-level college supervisors often...

Insane how low-level college supervisors often like to act like they’re assigning games with 4-figure checks.

That wouldn’t fly in the southeast where working G/B doubleheaders is the norm and not...
Forum: Basketball Tue Apr 03, 2018, 07:43pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Technically NFHS and NCAAM have also eliminated...

Technically NFHS and NCAAM have also eliminated the same degree of judgment, as well–the “automatics” are the same across all the rulesets.

I guess it’s just that on the men’s side those...
Forum: Basketball Mon Apr 02, 2018, 01:35pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
I'm with you, but there are plenty of officials...

I'm with you, but there are plenty of officials that have no problem making the adjustment between what's expected in girls games and what's expected in boys games. Just because you're good at one...
Forum: Basketball Mon Apr 02, 2018, 09:42am
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Has nothing to do with games being on the same...

Has nothing to do with games being on the same day. Has (almost) everything to do with the fact that once you get to the college level, assigners (and coaches) don't want you mixing. It doesn't...
Forum: Basketball Mon Apr 02, 2018, 09:39am
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
I disagree with this. While working each gender...

I disagree with this. While working each gender presents its own challenges, there's no reason one official can't be competent at both. I rarely see an official and think "wow he's good at calling...
Forum: Basketball Sun Apr 01, 2018, 10:38pm
Replies: 148
Views: 12,505
Posted By SC Official
Not a chance. Choose which path you want to go...

Not a chance. Choose which path you want to go and be committed. If you decide to switch, I’ve always heard that it’s easier to go from men’s to women’s than vice-versa (just what I’ve heard, I can’t...
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