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Forum: Football Fri Aug 14, 2009, 04:31pm
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Posted By Welpe
Ironically enough, I used your justifications for...

Ironically enough, I used your justifications for it too. Glad to hear I have your blessing then because those damn rules are too cumbersome to have to memorize anyways.

I agree with KWH, don't...
Forum: Football Fri Aug 14, 2009, 03:59pm
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Posted By Welpe
On a side note, I am not going to be throwing any...

On a side note, I am not going to be throwing any flags for horse collar fouls. I do not believe this should be illegal because it is a dopey rule so I will not call it. That's my interpretation.
Forum: Football Fri Aug 14, 2009, 03:47pm
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Posted By Welpe
You really aren't interested in an opposing view...

You really aren't interested in an opposing view point then. Fair enough, I will quit wasting my time. I think perhaps, you just do not want to admit you are wrong.

You leave me no choice but...
Forum: Football Fri Aug 14, 2009, 12:02pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
One last trip down the rabbit hole... For...

One last trip down the rabbit hole...

For your reading enjoyment:

2-37 Rule:

A rule is one of the groups of regulations which govern the game. A rule
sometimes states what a player may do,...
Forum: Football Fri Aug 14, 2009, 11:36am
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Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
It's been done...over 13 pages now but not one of...

It's been done...over 13 pages now but not one of them has been good enough for you. Furthermore, you haven't offered any actual rebuttal but have simply dismissed them as being "dopey",...
Forum: Football Thu Aug 13, 2009, 08:24pm
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Posted By Welpe
Let me quote you one, "You can't teach a pig to...

Let me quote you one, "You can't teach a pig to sing."

KWH, I think it's a waste of time to try and reason with the Alf. No "interpretation" (the English language to the rest of us), will be good...
Forum: Football Fri Aug 07, 2009, 04:55pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
A simple "I don't understand how tense works in...

A simple "I don't understand how tense works in the English language." would've sufficed.

It's not a complicated subject, requiring a college degree to understand. They do teach this in grade...
Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 10:42pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
I don't understand you. You ask for logic,...

I don't understand you. You ask for logic, reasonings, etc to support the interpretation and then you reject them with vague terms, relying on your supposed common sense but you don't offer any real...
Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 07:36pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
Not quite. The reading of the very definition...

Not quite. The reading of the very definition does not lend OOB to being a persistent state but rather a volatile state that exists only as long as a specific condition is being met.

Why are you...
Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 05:41pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
Here is the other point of contention. The...

Here is the other point of contention. The current Redding Guide case play goes into more detail than the 2003 CB play did. I am focusing more on the airborne player being out of bounds or not...
Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 05:39pm
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Posted By Welpe
What I do know is that I haven't talked this much...

What I do know is that I haven't talked this much about touching since high school. :eek:
Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 05:37pm
Replies: 207
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Posted By Welpe
The language used in the rule is "is touching". ...

The language used in the rule is "is touching". That is the present tense of the verb "touch". If a player is no longer in contact with the sideline (ie he goes airborne), it does not make...
Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 03:42pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
Originally posted by Walt in another thread. ...

Originally posted by Walt in another thread. This CB play was also in the 2003 casebook and is the foundation for the Redding Guide play that started all of this. :)
Forum: Football Thu Aug 06, 2009, 03:34pm
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Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
Well there was an NF casebook play up through...

Well there was an NF casebook play up through 2003 that said an airborne player previously touching out of bounds was not out of bounds. There has been no rule change, editorial change or retraction...
Forum: Football Fri Jul 31, 2009, 07:02pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
Kevin, I responded on RefStripes. I guess I...

Kevin, I responded on RefStripes. I guess I didn't remember the play correctly. Thanks for the correction.
Forum: Football Fri Jul 31, 2009, 04:35pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
Did George Demetriou write this case play? If...

Did George Demetriou write this case play? If so, he changed his mind from last year about this being IP. I wonder if that play is still in the 2009 Redding Guide.
Forum: Football Tue Jul 28, 2009, 01:28pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
Same here. I think this thread has run its...

Same here. I think this thread has run its course.
Forum: Football Mon Jul 27, 2009, 05:38pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
No, they wouldn't be guilty of IP because they...

No, they wouldn't be guilty of IP because they are non-players and they did not participate in the play. This is not the same as a player leaving and entering the field again during a play.

This,...
Forum: Football Sat Apr 11, 2009, 04:43pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
The first post in this thread contains the...

The first post in this thread contains the Redding play and interpretation that supports this.

As far as the actual wording of the rule is concerned, I don't know how "touching" can be any simpler...
Forum: Football Sat Apr 11, 2009, 11:30am
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
I take it then you don't agree with the Redding...

I take it then you don't agree with the Redding Guide and the letter of the rule?
Forum: Football Fri Apr 10, 2009, 04:08pm
Replies: 207
Views: 25,469
Posted By Welpe
I think we ned to bring in the Bob M....

I think we ned to bring in the Bob M. interpretation on the matter. :D

I do not personally see how the Rule 2 definition of being out of bounds can be interpreted in any matter other than by black...
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