I remember looking at the slide show where the NFHS claims that a PSK situation happens only once every 8-10 games.

I've worked 3 games this season and have had 2 PSK situations -- an invalid fair catch signal and a block in the back by the short punt returner on a defender just before the other deep guy caught the ball.

While having 2 of these in 3 games might be much, I just can't imagine having only one every 8-10 games.

Working 4-man the other night as the LJ, I was bean bagging the PSK spot and we had some long returns. Anyone figure out how to get the bean bag back to the LJ (or BJ in 5-man)?

Rich

Rich, the referees in our association are supposed to be reporting them in their game reports each week. I haven't heard how many we've had through the first four weeks but I'll try to find out. Our crew hasn't had one this year, through 4 V and 3 JV games.

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Working 4-man the other night as the LJ, I was bean bagging the PSK spot and we had some long returns. Anyone figure out how to get the bean bag back to the LJ (or BJ in 5-man)?

Run Forrest, run! ;)

No other way that I know of.

It's a statistics thing Rich. They can make the numbers look any way they want them to look.

Game one for me last night. PSK in the first quarter.

3 varsity games and 9 sub-varsity games this season. 3 PSK in one varsity game, 5 in the sub-varsity games. We use NCAA rules. I think the one in eight or ten games is a bit low.
"Clean hands" rule may be one in eight or ten.

4 varsity games - zero PSK fouls. Closest thing I have seen was an invalid fair catch signal during a free kick, where PSK does not apply.

I worked with a R two Friday nights ago who said he had 1 PSK foul the week before.

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We had a PSK enforcement in our opener Friday night.

I guess that we are done with that particular situation for the seaons.

Using NCAA rules I see about 1 PSK situation every 3 - 4 games.

As for the bean bag, I used to be a real fan of "Top Cat", a cartoon back in the 60's. Remember how he had a quarter he used to tip the doorman but it had a thread on it so he could pull it back? I have a similar contraption on my bean bag so I can reel it in after the play.

J/K Just means I have to hustle a bit more but that is what we BJ's are known for right? Being hustlers.

Some are going to see PSK a couple times in one game and others may not see it this year. It has been 23 varsity games since I saw it last. Will probably see it next week now.

How many PSK fouls were with the ball in the air versus the ball bouncing around before possession?

The last one I saw, two seasons ago, the ball was bouncing before possession.

The last one I had was with the ball bouncing around and R never touched it. R clipped (today is was a block in the back) and gave K a first down.

Both of mine (start of thread) were with the ball in the air.

It may have caused a lot of confusion early on, but there are a lot of instances where PSK makes a world of sense -- where an R foul after the kick would bail the K team out when the penalty put the ball past the line to gain.

Rich

I have had 3 weekends of football. One in Indiana, 2 in Illinois. This week was the first time we had a PSK on my regular crew during a Sophmore/JV game on Friday.

You throw the bean bag, you get your bean bag unless someone else sees it. Not much else you can do in those situations.

Peace

I've had one in 6 games (invalid fair catch signal)

Carry two bean bags if you are LJ or BJ. Also, talking to statisticians, trainers, etc might help in retrieving it.

From our meeting last week, the New York state interpreter recommends having two bean bags and labeling the one used to mark the end of the scrimmage kick with a "K". That way if you use the secodn bag on the same play in the same area there will be no confusion.

Re: Bean bag, have ball boys pick it up, when play permits take to side line give to BJ

Ball Boys, some white hats will get them. Really depends on how far downfield we are. I dropped one last year for a fumble on a kick and had to race back 85 yards. I was LJ and just had my ball boy go get it. Told him if play suddenly came his way to get off the field (bag was only a couple steps onto the field anyways)

One game each; soph, JV, Varsity, have not had on on our crew yet. Our biggest problem is getting the white hat to slow down and let the BJ get set before blowing the ready. We are thinking of trying the ballboys. We will signal to them to grab it and run it up to us. I repost after we try it. Until someone figures it out, you may want to try practicing with some track sprinters!! HAHAHA Just Kidding!

Jumped on a crew today as the LJ in a 4-man. Had some long returns and I just left the bag on the field upfield. I knew where it was and after the score at the other end of the field, I picked it up on my way upfield for the kickoff.

I also had to keep the clock on the field -- if I had to do that every game, I'd probably quit :)

Rich