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hbk314 Sat Jan 03, 2015 08:47pm

Shuffled Crews For NFL Playoffs
 
I've never officiated football, so I have no idea. How much harder (or not) is it to officiate with a different crew than you've been with all year in the NFL compared to a playoff crew in baseball? I'm not familiar with a lot of the officiating mechanics for football, but I'd imagine there are certain things that the same crews are naturally on the same page on that might not necessarily be the case in an "all-star" crew of sorts.

Rich Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:01pm

In football, we work a position with specific responsibilities. For guys at that level, it shouldn't be hard at all to adjust.

PATRICK Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:22pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 948576)
In football, we work a position with specific responsibilities. For guys at that level, it shouldn't be hard at all to adjust.

Our local HS chapter doesn't use crews and I work with a different group each week. If I can adjust, the professionals can so much easier.

Rich Sun Jan 04, 2015 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by PATRICK (Post 948585)
Our local HS chapter doesn't use crews and I work with a different group each week. If I can adjust, the professionals can so much easier.

Thank goodness I don't have to deal with that.

bigjohn Sun Jan 04, 2015 08:18pm

In the FOX broadcast booth, they called it one of the latest flag pickups they've ever seen. Even referee analyst Mike Pereira said following the play he 'strongly disagreed' with picking up the flag.


He even blamed it on the shuffled crews!
Did Refs Get It Right Picking Up Flag On Pass Interference Call?

Scooby Sun Jan 04, 2015 09:21pm

While watching the game it sounded to me like Pereira blamed the communication problem and the lateness of picking up the flag, to not working as a crew, not the reversal of the call.
But, makes me think that if there is so little benefit to work with the same guys, then why do they work as a crew during the regular season?

hbk314 Sun Jan 04, 2015 09:21pm

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Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 948655)
In the FOX broadcast booth, they called it one of the latest flag pickups they've ever seen. Even referee analyst Mike Pereira said following the play he 'strongly disagreed' with picking up the flag.


He even blamed it on the shuffled crews!
Did Refs Get It Right Picking Up Flag On Pass Interference Call?

There's more there than I felt there was on some other PI calls this weekend.

gsf23 Mon Jan 05, 2015 03:39am

What I'd like to know is how Dez Bryant can run on the field, helmet off, argue a call, and not get flagged.

bigjohn Mon Jan 05, 2015 08:11am

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...030429958.html

bwburke94 Mon Jan 05, 2015 09:15am

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Originally Posted by gsf23 (Post 948684)
What I'd like to know is how Dez Bryant can run on the field, helmet off, argue a call, and not get flagged.

They didn't want to compound their error. If they would have flagged the USC and then reversed the pass interference, the USC would still be enforced.

ajmc Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:53pm

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Originally Posted by gsf23 (Post 948684)
What I'd like to know is how Dez Bryant can run on the field, helmet off, argue a call, and not get flagged.

The decision whether an UNC flag is appropriate OR NOT, is made by the covering official, based on a unique and specific incident, rather than an arbitrary "one size fits all" mandatory (a practice that has proven successful for 125 years).

Regarding the PI change call, the Referee has acknowledged that it would have been less confusing had he recognized there was a discussion between wing officials and waited for a conclusion before making an announcement. As always field officials don't have the advantage of hind sight and speculation given to "announcers" and make decisions in real time, subject to replay review rules.

There is inevitably a very fine line between what is, and what is not, incidental contact, and the objective of ALL officials is to assess that difference CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT the contest, regardless of who, or which team, the assessment applies to.

MD Longhorn Mon Jan 05, 2015 02:30pm

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Originally Posted by gsf23 (Post 948684)
What I'd like to know is how Dez Bryant can run on the field, helmet off, argue a call, and not get flagged.

Non officials need to get off the "helmet off" part of this. It's illegal for a player in the previous play to take off his helmet. Rule says nothing about not having it on as you come onto the field after the play.

This is simply USC or not USC. The referee chose to pass when DB immediately left the field when requested. Nothing we haven't seen before. NFL is reluctant to flag simple (and short) protests over a call (whether from a player on the field or off, or a coach) - it takes a lot to draw USC here.

PATRICK Mon Jan 05, 2015 03:36pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 948644)
Thank goodness I don't have to deal with that.

As a LJ, I deal with different U's each week. Some good, some not so good!

Sturno Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:26pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 948644)
Thank goodness I don't have to deal with that.

You.
Aren't.
Kidding.


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