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hbk314 Sun Dec 14, 2014 04:40pm

Worst NFL Review Decision Ever?
 
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Not that it excuses Moss's behavior, but that appears to be absolutely brutal. Is this the result of another nonsensical rule, or is it as bad as it looks?

APG Sun Dec 14, 2014 05:12pm

Worst review decision ever? :rolleyes:

Try the correct call. It's an easy review decision when one knows the rules involved in the play

The player loses possession of the ball prior to the ball breaking the plane of the goal line....to regain possession of the ball again, he must complete the process of recovering a loose ball....control of the ball, 2 feet on the ground or any other body part other than the hand(s) or a foot...and because he's going to the ground, he must complete the process by maintaining possession of the ball through contact with the ground.

The player regains control of the ball but does not maintain possession of the ball through contact with the ground. In fact, the player didn't even get any body part inbounds have he regained control of the ball. As such you can't award a touchdown in this case....but rather a touchback.

You'll see the requirements are the same as those for a catch...that's cause the rule is the same for the recovering any loose ball.

InsideTheStripe Sun Dec 14, 2014 06:07pm

Not controversial to anyone that understands the rules.

hbk314 Sun Dec 14, 2014 06:13pm

I'd say this play clearly illustrates a situation where the rule applies itself poorly.

hbk314 Sun Dec 14, 2014 06:32pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 946832)
The player regains control of the ball but does not maintain possession of the ball through contact with the ground. In fact, the player didn't even get any body part inbounds have he regained control of the ball. As such you can't award a touchdown in this case....but rather a touchback.

He had two feet down in bounds with control. The only thing he didn't do was maintain possession after contacting the ground.

zm1283 Sun Dec 14, 2014 06:56pm

Don't really care for the rule or NFL replay in general, but it was the correct call.

The comments below that story in the original link above confirm just how stupid the general public is.

hbk314 Sun Dec 14, 2014 07:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 946840)
Don't really care for the rule or NFL replay in general, but it was the correct call.

The comments below that story in the original link above confirm just how stupid the general public is.

Well this is one of those plays where the "common sense" view of it is that he had possession in the endzone, so it's not hard to imagine most people would see it that way.

jTheUmp Sun Dec 14, 2014 08:15pm

Absolutely the correct call.

Runner loses possession of the ball at approximately the 2 yard line, and doesn't survive the ground with control of the ball (as explained by APG).

Quote:

The only thing he didn't do was maintain possession after contacting the ground.
And that's why it's a touchback rather than a touchdown.

Ball-buster of a play for the covering official, but that's why replay's there.

"most people" might not see it that way, but "most people" have no clue what the rules are.

hbk314 Sun Dec 14, 2014 08:59pm

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Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 946848)
Absolutely the correct call.

Runner loses possession of the ball at approximately the 2 yard line, and doesn't survive the ground with control of the ball (as explained by APG).


And that's why it's a touchback rather than a touchdown.

Ball-buster of a play for the covering official, but that's why replay's there.

"most people" might not see it that way, but "most people" have no clue what the rules are.

I was responding to a post claiming he never made contact with the ground in bounds.

I basically said the same thing as far as "most people." As in this is a play that appears in every way to be a touchdown, but there's a part of the rule that makes it a touchback. It's one of the rules that doesn't necessarily align with "common sense."

jTheUmp Sun Dec 14, 2014 09:04pm

So you know the rule, understand the rule, and yet you still titled this thread "Worst NFL Review Decision Ever?"?

Welpe Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 946836)
I'd say this play clearly illustrates a situation where the rule applies itself poorly.

I'd say this post exemplifies how much you clearly don't know about the rules of football.

APG Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 946838)
He had two feet down in bounds with control. The only thing he didn't do was maintain possession after contacting the ground.

My mistake...I was going off of memory instead of going back and watching the play again.

Still, with the topic titled as it is, the wording in your original post, and your lack of understanding the rules at play on this type of play, it would have probably served you better to just ask about the rules at play that resulted in a reversal of the play instead of what you posted in the OP.


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