Jameis Winston

[hbk314]

Jameis Winston's contact with official did not warrant unsportsmanlike penalty, ACC says - ESPN

What are your thoughts on both the on-field actions and ACC response?

To me I don't see how there wasn't a flag thrown, and I would have supported an ejection.

[JRutledge]

I said this before and I will say this here. If this was another player, we would not be discussing this issue. We have a newer mechanic that has no standardization it appears that caused this issue if you ask me. I did not see an issue. I did not see the reaction from the official that showed he was put off by the situation. And as usual high school (only) officials seem to love to compare what happens with them to what happens at a higher level. That is mistake number one if you ask me.

I think the ACC did the right thing.

Peace

[bigjohn]

Pfttttt, yuck, I agree with rut! That hurt!

[HLin NC]

Winston makes Jimbo look like a tool. Nobody at FSU as the cajones to do anything with him.

College officials are too job scared to make an issue out of it. You can argue about comparing situations but we have no rule in HS ball holding the U over the ball anyway.

I don't see too many HS umpires allowing a kid to put their hands on them and doing absolutely nothing about it. Of course the white hat could have stepped in and helped out by blowing it dead but then I guess Jimbo is raising hell at him then.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Winston makes Jimbo look like a tool. Nobody at FSU as the cajones to do anything with him.

College officials are too job scared to make an issue out of it. You can argue about comparing situations but we have no rule in HS ball holding the U over the ball anyway.

I don't see too many HS umpires allowing a kid to put their hands on them and doing absolutely nothing about it. Of course the white hat could have stepped in and helped out by blowing it dead but then I guess Jimbo is raising hell at him then.

First of all this is not HS. I do not care what HS officials would or would not do, because many HS officials would get themselves in a lot of trouble doing the things they do at the college ranks. And this is not about a particular player. I would not call this on any player based on the mechanics and based off of that level. For one I have never seen an official ever do what this guy did. Maybe that is because there is not a standardization of that 8th official or Center Judge, but not sure why he needed to stand right in the way of the center, substitution or not. I have seen umpires in 7 man stand over the ball, but never physically prevent a player from moving into an area or under center. And that IMO cause part of the problem and the official never reacted like he was offended or put off by the contact. If he was, then that is another story. But he also knows what was said to the Winston and his response. None of us here know what was said either way and that would affect my opinion of this situation if the right words were used.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

I'm sorry. This is absurd. He put his hands on an official and pushed. 15 yards. You want to waive the ejection because it was not unsportsmanlike, fine... but this is a penalty all day, every day, at any level.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by hbk314

Jameis Winston's contact with official did not warrant unsportsmanlike penalty, ACC says - ESPN

What are your thoughts on both the on-field actions and ACC response?

To me I don't see how there wasn't a flag thrown, and I would have supported an ejection.

The view from behind makes it look like the player is interfering with game administration. But the fact that the official he was shoving didn't throw a flag -- nor did any other official -- or stop play seems to say that the official did not consider it such interference.

Was the offense trying to conserve time? In that case I could understand officials' being reluctant to stop play, although my understanding is that a time penalty is an available tool in NCAA to handle such situations.

Otherwise I think you've got to either immediately flag & whistle it for UC (or at least delay of game), or else acknowledge it as a nothing.