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Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

But the spot for a personal foul by a player is different from that for either an unsportsmanlike or nonplayer foul (i.e. a foul by a nonplayer).

What I want to know is, is it possible to commit a personal foul against someone who is in some sense an opponent, but is a nonplayer? If so, how do you know?

I would say Yes, it is possible to commit a PF against a nonplayer.

Rule 9-4-3g ... No player or nonplayer shall make any other contact with an opponent which is deemed unnecessary and which incites roughness. The term "opponent" is identified in Rule 2-43. It says nothing about the opponent has to be one of the 11 players only that the opponent is "the defense, B or R".

In the OP, Originally Posted by OKREF
Ok. Let me clarify. B23 intercepts a pass. At the 35 yd line B10 blocks A2 and they end up OOB and in the team B bench area. 10-15 team B players surround A2. Whooping it up. A2 is trying to get away, as he is, non-player A1 (think he means B1) jumps and gets in the face of B2 (think he means A2) and bumps him, A2 then shoves B1. All of this happens during the interception return for a touchdown, prior to the score. They are both live ball fouls.

So do we have two personal fouls? Or 1 PF, and 1 US?

2 PF's ... contact by each guilty party.
Nonplayer B1 bumps Player A2 - PF 9-4-3g, 10-4-5c & 8-2-4
A2 then shoves B1 durring B23's TD run - PF 9-4-3g, 8-2-2