Bean bags on PSK plays.
 

One of our members came up with this idea at our meeting:

2 bean bags: one white, one blue.

Use blue bean bag to mark end of kick when PSK may come into play. Covering official would be carrying the blue bag at the start of the play.

Use white as you normally would if there is a fumble, etc. after the end of the kick.

Ideas? Comments?

Oh, by the way, the member that came up with this idea was going to sew up about 30 of the blue bags with his wife...

Bad idea...at least that's what our state director said before we could even ask about it.

What happens when you through the wrong color bag?

We've been told two white bags, no other color.

Oh my, what next Mike, different colored flags for 5 vs 10 vs 15 yard fouls? Only the NFL uses blue bags.
No need to complicate things.. Just drop a (white) bag at every end-of-kick spot.

Personally speaking, you might consider having three bags if you are a downfield official. Two in your belt and one in your hand on kick play downs.

Why? consider this, a kicked ball is rolling around, touched by K, picked up by R who fumbles when hit a few yards later.
Third bag is in the pocket until a kick down is about to go off. At that time it's in your hand.
May only happened once in your lifetime or not at all, but you'll be prepared.
Think of that great observers rating you'll get too!

Wow, Mike! Next thing you know you, you will be advocating sunglasses, beards and long hair to match the blue beanbags.

Not that you would know, or care to know, but I'm fairly certain that the CFL uses blue bags as well.

Mike

Right Mike, I really don't know much about the CFL. I should as I have relatives in Kitchner, Ontario.
Considering it is a professional league, its not a surprise about the color of the bags.
Do they still wear the stirrup socks?

They still wear the stirrup socks, as do the rest of us in Canada.

Suuurreeee he was.
 

Yeah, that makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:

Peace

What's wrong with blue bean bags, beards, sunglasses, and long hair for football officials????? Heck I say dye the hair blue and get some blue colored sunglasses to boot..

How about only using blue bean bags if your playing on a snow covered field? Makes it easier to find your bag. NOT.
I carry 2 white ones. One on my belt and small aux. on in my pocket. In Ohio, we are required, by the state, to have our rule books available in case of a coaches conference. We care a fanny back that we have the chain crew hold. Besides the rule books we have tape, a double hook (in case the chain breaks), extra pencil, whiste and bean bag. The chain crews can wear it and it's a great ice breaker with those guys as well.

Oh, by the way, the member that came up with this idea was going to sew up about 30 of the blue bags with his wife...


Im sure his wife is greatful that the board shut down the idea

Are you actually required to have the rulebook on the field?? To me this seems to be asking for trouble. I used to officiate ice hockey, and during a game the coach questioned my partner's rule knowledge (for the record, my partner was correct). I forget the exact circumstance, but it was a rule that required knowledge of several defintions. My partner whips out the book and the coach quickly reads just the rule, not knowing the precise defintions. Now based on his 20 second reading of the rule, he is convinced for the rest of the game that we have no clue about any of the rules. There is never going to be enough time for the coach to read all the pertinant rules/definitions, so I think it is best to leave the book in the locker room.

I agree. A very bad idea.

Does Ohio do this in other sports as well?

I like that idea and this season my crew will have a bag on the sidelines too.

We are required to have a rule book available on the sideline. However, as we all know there is never a simple section in the rule book pointing to what the coach wants to see. I tried explaining the previous PSK to a coach using the rule book. He was lost when I starting explaining loose ball play versus running play. If the coach has no idea of the rules before the game what makes you think he can master a rule with a simple glance at the book?

Like we do in baseball. Coach "Show me in the rule book where that ruling is correct!!"
Ump " No coach you show me in the rule book that ruling is not correct."

Don't know about other sports, but it is a requirement to have it available in football. I've been working in Ohio since 1991 never pulled it out during the game. The coach has to burn a timeout if he's wrong to take a look. We've questioned ourselves and looked stuff up at half time. Most coaches don't know we have it there and secondly, don't want to burn the TO. They don't know the rules well enough themselves to take a chance on lossing the TO.

I think the rulebook at the game is a horrible idea. If the
coach doesn't know the rule that is his tough luck, he should have read more before the game.

Kitchener! Zigge Zagge, Zigge Zagge, Zigge Zagge, Hoi Hoi Hoi!! Ein Prosit!

A great Bavarian Festival. I live in Waterloo, a town attached at the hip with Kitchener. In fact, the two are often called Kitchener-Waterloo. Kinda like St. Paul-Minneapolis. (Those are the two cities, right?)

Yup, we still wear stirrup socks. Personally, I like them better.

BTW, you spelled colour wrong... don't forget the "u".

The CFL uses 7-person crews: R, U, HL, LJ, FJ, BJ, SJ which I believe are the same as the NFL. The mechanics are pretty much the same. Par example, I'm not sure the position of the R in the NFL, but the CFL R is on the side of the throwing arm of the QB, U diagonal to him.

Mike

Right on about the color spelling, I mean colour.
It's my sister and family who lives in Kitchner. Her husband was a professor (now retired) at The University so I know all about Waterloo. I used to get a earful about the Maple Leafs from him as I grew up in the Red Wing territory.

I sort of like stirrup socks too, but depending on the shoe type I wore, I would actually run out of my stirrups by the middle of the second quarter. Wound up taping them to my arch.
I like the one piece much better now.

I am so old that I remember red flags. I have since thought that they might come in handy on a dry field in an afternoon game. The yellow is hard to spot in parched grass. As for bean bags, keep em white. They're hard enough to find in long grass as it is.

Also, I am so old I remember our socks used to have no stripes.


Anyone else remember?

I work JV games on a field where they don't have pylons in the EZ but have flags on springloaded wire posts about a foot tall. I think these went out about the time our flags changed from red to yellow.