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OKREF Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:58am
Free kick formation
 
Little confused on this. On a free kick after a fair catch, do you have to have a snapper, block tee, and a holder? Or can you set the ball on a kick off tee and use it? While trying to kick a field goal.

maven Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:47pm
It's a free kick, which by rule is a place kick or drop kick (the exception for free kicks after safeties does not apply). 2-24

There is no snap, because it is a free kick, not a scrimmage kick. Think kickoff. The only difference is that this kickoff can score 3 points if the kick goes through the goal.

OKREF Sat Sep 28, 2013 01:43pm
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Originally Posted by maven (Post 906318)
It's a free kick, which by rule is a place kick or drop kick (the exception for free kicks after safeties does not apply). 2-24

There is no snap, because it is a free kick, not a scrimmage kick. Think kickoff. The only difference is that this kickoff can score 3 points if the kick goes through the goal.
We did it right. Thanks, just making sure. Had our first one ever last night.

Adam Sat Sep 28, 2013 02:17pm
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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 906319)
We did it right. Thanks, just making sure. Had our first one ever last night.
Coach was watching the NFL.

Reffing Rev. Sat Sep 28, 2013 03:39pm
NEXT question...which officials did you have under the posts?

voiceoflg Sat Sep 28, 2013 04:41pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by maven (Post 906318)
It's a free kick, which by rule is a place kick or drop kick (the exception for free kicks after safeties does not apply). 2-24

There is no snap, because it is a free kick, not a scrimmage kick. Think kickoff. The only difference is that this kickoff can score 3 points if the kick goes through the goal.
So a free kick after a fair catch can be a drop kick as well?

OKREF Sat Sep 28, 2013 05:30pm
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Originally Posted by Reffing Rev. (Post 906327)
NEXT question...which officials did you have under the posts?
This we did wrong. I read the mechanics manual this morning. BJ and LJ(me).

Page 28 2012-2013 game manual

Referee behind upright
LJ behind upright; rule on crossbar
Both rule if kick is good
All other officials mechanics are same as kickoff.

maven Sat Sep 28, 2013 07:33pm
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Originally Posted by voiceoflg (Post 906330)
So a free kick after a fair catch can be a drop kick as well?
Yes, and it can still score.

ODJ Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:48am
Illinois changed the mechanic.

BJ - LJ under the uprights. R has K, U has R, HL around the ten with GL duty.

JRutledge Sun Sep 29, 2013 03:46am
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Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 906350)
Illinois changed the mechanic.

BJ - LJ under the uprights. R has K, U has R, HL around the ten with GL duty.
Not so sure about that. We talked about this as a crew (clinician is the crew chief) and we will have the R and the LJ under the uprights. The BJ will stay on the same position as to not change what we normally do on a normal free kick.

Peace

OKREF Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:50am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 906350)
Illinois changed the mechanic.

BJ - LJ under the uprights. R has K, U has R, HL around the ten with GL duty.
Why would the umpire have receivers? Shouldn't the HL have them?

We should have had the R and LJ underneath, U at around the 20, BJ with K and HL with R.

JRutledge Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 906371)
Why would the umpire have receivers? Shouldn't the HL have them?

We should have had the R and LJ underneath, U at around the 20, BJ with K and HL with R.
The U was moved in Illinois (and I believe in NF mechanics) a year ago. Other states might do something different.

Remember mechanics are local applications most of the time anyway. The NF cannot tell states what to do ultimately. So always check your local listings in things like this.

Peace

OKREF Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 906373)
The U was moved in Illinois (and I believe in NF mechanics) a year ago. Other states might do something different.

Remember mechanics are local applications most of the time anyway. The NF cannot tell states what to do ultimately. So always check your local listings in things like this.

Peace
You're right. I misread the manual. We still have the umpire back around the 30, with the LJ and HL with the receivers. The BJ has the kickers.

Tom.OH Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:54pm
Ohio does it different, we have R with the kicker, U & BJ under the uprights, L on K line and LJ on R line. Have NEVER used it and most likely never will...


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