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Old Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:45pm
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And according to interpretation in Ohio, if the runner is part of a pile it's legal.

Do you deny that the powers that be in Ohio have said that pushing the pile is legal?
John has no idea. He's read no interpretations (and when we post them here he argues with them). He's attended no clinics, sat in no rooms after games with other officials, driven home discussing plays with no officials, etc.

He has a rulebook, and thinks that's enough.
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Old Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:57pm
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John has no idea. He's read no interpretations (and when we post them here he argues with them). He's attended no clinics, sat in no rooms after games with other officials, driven home discussing plays with no officials, etc.

He has a rulebook, and thinks that's enough.
That is why I love guys that coach that come to officiating and they realize how hard it is to do what we do. Or they realize how ignorant they were about things that took place from our side of the field. And I respect the time coaches put into the game to become better, but they have no idea the hours we put in to learn the game and the rules.

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Old Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:08pm
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That is why I love guys that coach that come to officiating and they realize how hard it is to do what we do. Or they realize how ignorant they were about things that took place from our side of the field. And I respect the time coaches put into the game to become better, but they have no idea the hours we put in to learn the game and the rules.

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We've often stated in our association that at least the HC should officiate 1 year. Then they might have the experience and perspective to quash the stupid thinking we often see.
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Old Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:33pm
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You guys have no idea what I have done or seen!
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Old Sun Sep 22, 2013, 09:08am
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I do know that you have yet to answer (or even attempt to) my question.
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Old Sun Sep 22, 2013, 10:19am
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[QUOTE=paxsonref;905492]Take a look at these two videos...do you have anything here?

I am not a football official (except flag football), but I also have nothing on this. I agree with those saying they are pushing the pile, which in my opinion, constitutes attempting to block players that are attempting to tackle the ball carrier.

I have seen aiding the runner called once in my lifetime. Homecoming at my HS and the opponent handed the ball off and as the play came down field, the RB cut back so a OL was right behind him. The OL just flat out 2 hand shoved him in the middle of the back for about 4 yards as a helpless (that was my HS's entire team for most of the last decade) defender tried making a tackle. The funny thing was nobody on the crew knew the signal, they just knew it happened.
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Old Sun Sep 22, 2013, 02:05pm
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Scout.com: 2003 DIVISION V STATE CHAMPIONSHIP

I am not sure where the new ohio director stands on this issue.
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Old Sun Sep 22, 2013, 02:25pm
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I am not sure where the new ohio director stands on this issue.
you've been told plenty of times...
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Old Sun Sep 22, 2013, 08:44pm
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Same guy that says it is fine to wear shorts on Friday night?
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Old Sun Sep 22, 2013, 09:56pm
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Same guy that says it is fine to wear shorts on Friday night?
Yep, along with the current and former State Rules Interpreters.
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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 05:51am
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If it is not a safety issue for the fb to run and drill his own QB in the back to try and push the entire pile into the end zone or for a first down, I don't know what is.

It is silly to say it is not HTR runner when this happens.
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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 06:00am
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Whether or not you agree with the rule isn't and hasn't been the issue. There are many that we don't agree with as well. (was a recent thread about that subject)

I don't agree with the rule allowing blocking below the waist in the FBZ (under certain conditions) However, I don't go around saying that BBW in the FBZ is illegal,
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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 08:50am
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If it is not a safety issue for the fb to run and drill his own QB in the back to try and push the entire pile into the end zone or for a first down, I don't know what is.
You are correct.
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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:13am
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Cooler weather, changing color on leaves, football and Big John vs. everyone else arguing. These are the markers of fall.

Are we about done here or do I actually need to lock this thread, too?
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are we about done here or do i actually need to lock this thread, too?
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