Tobacco

[bigjohn]

Towel color and other uniform adornments are not safety issue or really have an effect on the game!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And I think your weapon point is a straw man argument. We are not talking about weapons, we are talking about tobacco that is outlawed by rule.

Thanks for making my point again. Both are outlawed on campus. Neither should be something a game official has to deal with.

Think whatever you want to. It's the same principle.

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Towel color and other uniform adornments are not safety issue or really have an effect on the game!

Nor are they something officials should have to deal with.

[JRutledge]

All I am saying Tony is that there is a rule in place. I have no problem with how the crew handled this unless there was some directive to handle it differently. Not sure what point you are trying to make? This is mostly a local issue that if happened in my area I would see as handled properly. I do agree the entire crew did not need to be there, but then again that might have been one of those situations where the crew left together and the coach saw them all and that is when it was addressed.

Peace

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Towel color and other uniform adornments are not safety issue or really have an effect on the game!

That's true, and those issues are nuts & recent too. Why can't the rules makers just pay att'n to the game?

[jTheUmp]

I actually had to eject a pitcher from an 18U baseball game over the summer... he had a can of chew in his back pocket while he was pitching. No way I could ignore that.

Personally, I think the "alert the head coach of suspicions, report to the state office after the game" route is probably the best one to take in this situation... unless the AC made it such that I had no choice but to address the issue. (ie: spitting tobacco juice where I could see him or actually putting a dip in his mouth in front of me).

[miller1276]

IMO you need to stop looking for trouble on the sideline and focus on the game and player safety.

[Robert Goodman]

At least the officials didn't get involved in this one. The article didn't make clear whether he was a player.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by miller1276

IMO you need to stop looking for trouble on the sideline and focus on the game and player safety.

That's a coach's answer. Clearly you shouldn't be shaking down the sideline for tobacco but sometimes it is something that gets thrown in OUR lap.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That's a coach's answer. Clearly you shouldn't be shaking down the sideline for tobacco but sometimes it is something that gets thrown in OUR lap.

Amen. Should it any different if somebody was drunk? Lord knows I've had my share of tipsy chain crew guys...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by miller1276

IMO you need to stop looking for trouble on the sideline and focus on the game and player safety.

Are you a coach?

Next thing you'll do is keep my nose out of the dugout when the manager is screaming at me. Oh, wait. Wrong sport.

[HLin NC]

IMO you need to stop looking for trouble on the sideline and focus on the game and player safety.

Same answer I get when I enforce the restricted area. Seems nobody cares about official and/or coaches safety.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by miller1276

IMO you need to stop looking for trouble on the sideline and focus on the game and player safety.

Tell the rules committee, then. Those coaches seem to think we do need to enforce this.

Other than that...
What Welpe said.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by miller1276

IMO you need to stop looking for trouble on the sideline and focus on the game and player safety.

Nobody "looks for trouble". These rules are there for us to use when, for example, we get sprayed by an angry coach.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by CT1

Nobody "looks for trouble". These rules are there for us to use when, for example, we get sprayed by an angry coach.

You don't need the tobacco rule for this, IMO.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by miller1276

IMO you need to stop looking for trouble on the sideline and focus on the game and player safety.

Most of us agree with you, especially wrt the rules we're discussing here.

But we didn't write the rule that makes us look for trouble on the sideline.