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Old Mon Sep 09, 2013, 03:52pm
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Ok....Friday night

K punts from their 30...R gives an invalid fair catch signal at R's 40...K interferes with the punt which was then muffed and recovered by R at the 50

We really screwed it up but... should we have given offsetting fouls due to each team committing live ball fouls or...

Option 1) Marched off 5 for the invalid signal - 15 for the KCI - award R a fair catch at the 50
Option 2) Award R the result of the play at the 50
Option 3) Offsetting - replay 4th down
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Old Mon Sep 09, 2013, 04:11pm
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It is an offset if they both take accept the penalties. Not sure why you would give the option, but it could be a strategy situation if time or field position is a factor.

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Old Mon Sep 09, 2013, 04:54pm
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R can decline K's KCI foul & keep the ball after enforcement of the invalid signal penalty, or can accept K's foul for a replay of the down.
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R can decline K's KCI foul & keep the ball after enforcement of the invalid signal penalty, or can accept K's foul for a replay of the down.
If R declines the KCI foul, it's K's ball. I don't think they will be doing that.
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Old Mon Sep 09, 2013, 07:09pm
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If R declines the KCI foul, it's K's ball. I don't think they will be doing that.
Not sure why it would be K's ball if R recovered.

R's recovery at the 50 is the end of the kick. R's foul is PSK so they have the option of declining K's foul and taking the ball at their own 45 (after enforcement of 5 yard penalty from the end of the kick) or accepting K's foul and replaying down.
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Old Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:12am
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Not sure why it would be K's ball if R recovered.

R's recovery at the 50 is the end of the kick. R's foul is PSK so they have the option of declining K's foul and taking the ball at their own 45 (after enforcement of 5 yard penalty from the end of the kick) or accepting K's foul and replaying down.
My bad... I misread this as K recovering after the KCI.
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Old Mon Sep 09, 2013, 10:24pm
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If R declines the KCI foul, it's K's ball.
Why?
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Old Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:16am
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If R declines the KCI foul, it's K's ball. I don't think they will be doing that.
You apparently overlooked the fact that R recovered the ball.......
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Old Tue Sep 10, 2013, 05:44am
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Not sure why you would give the option, ...
Why would you not give R an option?
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Old Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:30am
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Why would you not give R an option?
You have a classic double foul. Usually you do not ask both teams their options in that situation.

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Old Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:47am
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You have a classic double foul. Usually you do not ask both teams their options in that situation.
Why not, when the choice is not obvious? And it doesn't look obvious in this situation.
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Old Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:52am
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Why not, when the choice is not obvious? And it doesn't look obvious in this situation.
You must did not see the "usually" in my post. And I can tell you most would not ask and replay the down.

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