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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:13pm
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I agree with Rich as well. Penalty enforcement for fouls against the defense when the run ends behind the LOS should be enforced at the previous spot as well. Case in point, QB drops back to pass and wants to throw to an eligible receiver downfield but he's held. The QB gets sacked for a 10-yard loss. Penalty enforcement for a running play is from the end of the run so this brings the ball back to the previous spot AFTER enforcement. It would be more equitable to enforce that from the previous. It's not a major issue because it doesn't happen often.
You just hit on one I forgot.

A12 drops back to pass. He's tackled 10 yards behind the LOS by his face mask.

That should be enforced from the previous spot, NOT from the spot where A12 was illegally tackled.
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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:21pm
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A12 drops back to pass. He's tackled 10 yards behind the LOS by his face mask.

That should be enforced from the previous spot, NOT from the spot where A12 was illegally tackled.
Why?

If instead A12 had run 10 yards downfield and fouled there, would you want the penalty on A enforced from the previous spot? Why wipe out the progress of the play up to the time and place of the foul?
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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:29pm
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Why?

If instead A12 had run 10 yards downfield and fouled there, would you want the penalty on A enforced from the previous spot? Why wipe out the progress of the play up to the time and place of the foul?
The tackle was the foul itself. Why should B benefit AT ALL from the illegal tackle?

To answer your question, I would put an exception to the all-but-one in place for a defensive foul on a running play. End of the run beyond the line, tack it on -- previous spot if the run ends behind the line. Hey, B's the team that fouled.
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Old Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:11am
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The tackle was the foul itself. Why should B benefit AT ALL from the illegal tackle?
Because he could probably have even more easily made a legal tackle there.
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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:52pm
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You just hit on one I forgot.

A12 drops back to pass. He's tackled 10 yards behind the LOS by his face mask.

That should be enforced from the previous spot, NOT from the spot where A12 was illegally tackled.
Unless A12 fumbles, then it is from the previous spot...which is crazy.
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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:29pm
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Why is the play dead just because a kickoff or punt crosses the goal line ???
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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:48pm
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Why allow a QB "spike" after a hand-to-hand snap, but not when the QB is in the "pistol"?
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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:12pm
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Why allow a QB "spike" after a hand-to-hand snap, but not when the QB is in the "pistol"?
I had forgotten that one. I saw that happen two years ago...and called it right on the air.
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Old Wed Sep 11, 2013, 06:24pm
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Why allow a QB "spike" after a hand-to-hand snap, but not when the QB is in the "pistol"?
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I had forgotten that one. I saw that happen two years ago...and called it right on the air.
Happened to me last night. Threw the flag, coaches were asking why?
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Old Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:20am
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Why allow a QB "spike" after a hand-to-hand snap, but not when the QB is in the "pistol"?
Spiking the ball to stop the clock in this manner is an exception to the rule. What advantage would be gained by changing this rule? I don't see one.
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Old Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:21am
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Spiking the ball to stop the clock in this manner is an exception to the rule. What advantage would be gained by changing this rule? I don't see one.
Tim Tebow won't gave a chance to fumble the Q/C exchange.
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Old Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:38pm
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Tim Tebow won't gave a chance to fumble the Q/C exchange.
I didn't know he had any HS eligibility left.
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Old Sun Aug 25, 2013, 06:27am
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Spiking the ball to stop the clock in this manner is an exception to the rule. What advantage would be gained by changing this rule? I don't see one.
I'll ask it another way:

If you're going to allow such exception to the IFP rule, why should the formation make any difference?
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Old Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:17pm
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I'll ask it another way:

If you're going to allow such exception to the IFP rule, why should the formation make any difference?
The exception is a way to legally spike the ball and conserve time. Which snap conserves more time, hand to hand or a shotgun snap? Obviously the hand to hand.

I never seen a shotgun snap used to spike the ball in the NFL or NCAA.
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Why is the play dead just because a kickoff or punt crosses the goal line ???
Safety.

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