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Can someone explain (sorry, very basic question)
Just a fan, not a coach, parent (of a football player), or official.
Offense breaks huddle and goes to the line. They look like they're set, then, almost as 1, multiple players (sometimes linemen?), stand up and look to the sideline to see if the coach wants to audible. How is this not a false start? Also, watching Sugar Bowl last night... Louisville on offense, breaks huddle, gets to the line, appears to be set, then multiple players would shift, everyone sets again, and they hike. How is this not a false start or too many in motion? I'm sure my understanding of the rule is not right, but hoping someone can set me straight. thanks |
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Not sure I answered you question totally, but it is a myth that everyone must be totally still. Just like we see the QB move around and make signals to get the snap. Peace |
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Illegal if any lineman is already in a 3- or 4-point stance. Illegal snapdown if they're not in an attempt to draw the defense offside. Legal otherwise. |
Rule 7 Section 2 ART. 6 . . . After a huddle or shift all 11 players of A shall come to an absolute
stop and shall remain stationary simultaneously without movement of hands, feet, head or body for at least one second before the snap. Myth or Rule? doesn't matter I guess! :mad: |
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If they all are bouncing around and then they don't all pause for 1 full second it should be called but seldom is.
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The shifting you saw Louisville do involved backs (including receivers lined up off the line of scrimmage) and ends only. But by rule all 11 on offense are permitted to shift, and to do so as often as they wish within the limits of the play clock. Before snapping the ball (or 1 player legally going in motion just before the snap), all 11 must be perfectly still for 1 second. |
Haven't we had this argument before this fall?
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To those of you poking fun or griping that "you've already discussed this", I lurk here a lot. I try to increase my knowledge of the rules. How many times have I heard gripes about fans not knowing the rules? Or people don't respect what an official does? So here's a fan, willingly admitting he doesn't know the rules and wants to learn, asking what I thought was a simple question. I'm sorry I so interrupted your day. :( |
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Thanks for your question. Peace |
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I see a lot of trading of TE and WB etc then an opposite side back going in motion almost immediately. Also the guard signally the snap by slapping the center technically violates the rule I posted. I also see lineman with their hand down squatting and looking to the sideline for play change, spirit of the rule says once the hand is down, stop moving.
c. Any A player on his line between the snapper and the player on the end of his line, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the ground, moves his hand(s) or makes any quick movement. |
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And as I am watching the Fiesta Bowl, I just saw a call for players not getting set. Peace |
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They simply have to reset for 1 second again before the ball is snapped. They can do this as many times as they like within the allotted play clock time. Quote:
1- You enjoy nothing more than spewing such crap to make officials look bad. 2- No rule says he must stop moving once his hand is down. There's no such thing as the "spirit of the rule" saying anything. Start your hibernation, bigjohn. See you in August. |
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You are missing the point, but I understand that.
I agree it is often done correctly but many times all 11 are not set when someone goes in motion or the linemen all get set quickly and they run a play. Sometimes they act like they are running a play on a quick and then everyone drops their butt and looks over at the sideline. The rules get stretched and they are given a lot of latitude because they always do it. There is a good bit of this going on here in Ohio because all the MAC schools are using this signalling system using boards and 4 coaches signaling. |
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One day you'll have an epiphany and figure out what "spirit of the rules" means and you'll come back and tell us how silly you've been all these years. |
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