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Robert Goodman Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:07pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 855230)
No, I don't think so.

With the penalty, everything that happens afterward ends up being disregarded anyway. (If the penalty is declined, you're back to replaying due to the IW)

With first touching, you have no idea whether the "zero yard penalty" will be accepted.

I suppose a "fair" way of navigating this would be to let the receiving team decide if they want to accept the first touching, or replay the down. I can see both sides of this.

Sometimes the choice would be obvious. If K first touches their free kick in the neutral zone, what is to be gained by R in replaying the down, assuming rational decisions by both sides?

OK, I suppose if K's kicker is really, really weak and has trouble getting the ball to go any distance at all, R might decline a spot of touching by K 9 yards into the NZ in the hope that his next kick won't even go that far.

MD Longhorn Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:15am

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Originally Posted by Robert Goodman (Post 855282)
Sometimes the choice would be obvious. If K first touches their free kick in the neutral zone, what is to be gained by R in replaying the down, assuming rational decisions by both sides?

OK, I suppose if K's kicker is really, really weak and has trouble getting the ball to go any distance at all, R might decline a spot of touching by K 9 yards into the NZ in the hope that his next kick won't even go that far.

Are you being intentionally obtuse (i.e. trolling), or have you simply not watched much football? I can't tell which, but this is a really dumb response.

How about --- first touching on the 1. I'm taking the rekick if it's an option. Good luck pinning us there twice.

Robert Goodman Thu Sep 20, 2012 09:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 855295)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman
Sometimes the choice would be obvious. If K first touches their free kick in the neutral zone, what is to be gained by R in replaying the down, assuming rational decisions by both sides?

OK, I suppose if K's kicker is really, really weak and has trouble getting the ball to go any distance at all, R might decline a spot of touching by K 9 yards into the NZ in the hope that his next kick won't even go that far.
Are you being intentionally obtuse (i.e. trolling), or have you simply not watched much football? I can't tell which, but this is a really dumb response.

How about --- first touching on the 1. I'm taking the rekick if it's an option. Good luck pinning us there twice.

What part of "sometimes" do you not understand?

CT1 Fri Sep 21, 2012 04:33pm

Just got word back from our state rules interpreter. The IW trumps the first touching.

Replay the down.


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