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big jake Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:53pm

Inv Whistle?????
 
Can someone explain in the readers digest version of the dreaded Inv whistle and a teams options?????

CT1 Sun Sep 09, 2012 06:12am

NFHS:

If the ball is loose, there's no option: replay the down.
If someone is in possession, his team may keep the ball where it was when the whistle blew, or replay the down.

maven Sun Sep 09, 2012 06:54am

...and if a foul occurs during the down and the penalty is accepted, the penalty trumps the IW.

My umpire says he always throws a flag if he hears an IW... ;)

Adam Sun Sep 09, 2012 07:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 853760)
NFHS:

If the ball is loose, there's no option: replay the down.

This is not true for NFHS. The team last in possession gets the option.
Replay the down or take the ball at the spot of the fumble.

BktBallRef Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 853760)
NFHS:

If the ball is loose, there's no option: replay the down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 853766)
This is not true for NFHS. The team last in possession gets the option.
Replay the down or take the ball at the spot of the fumble.

If the IW occurs during a legal forward pass, legal kick or snap if flight, then there' no option: replay the down.

If the IW occurs during a fumble, backwards pass, illegal forward pass or illegal kick, the team last in possession has the option.

Both of these assume there's no accepted penalty.

big jake Sun Sep 09, 2012 01:00pm

During a punt, ball has hit on the 8 yard line but has not been touched, a whistle blows at the line of scrimmage. Is the only option you have is to replay the down? Also you have 2 players fighting that caused the whistle to blow and 2 personal fouls, Ruling! Replay the down and enforce the penalty's?

BktBallRef Sun Sep 09, 2012 01:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 853802)
During a punt, ball has hit on the 8 yard line but has not been touched, a whistle blows at the line of scrimmage. Is the only option you have is to replay the down?

Also you have 2 players fighting that caused the whistle to blow and 2 personal fouls, Ruling! Replay the down and enforce the penalty's?

Both of these questions were answered above.

"If the IW occurs during a legal forward pass, legal kick or snap if flight, then there' no option: replay the down."

"...and if a foul occurs during the down and the penalty is accepted, the penalty trumps the IW."

big jake Sun Sep 09, 2012 04:39pm

Would you then enforce the penalty's?????

BktBallRef Sun Sep 09, 2012 04:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by big jake (Post 853829)
Would you then enforce the penalty's?????


Jake, if a accepted penalty occurs during the down and an IW occurs to end the down, then basically the IW never occurred. Treat it like any other play.

What's your confusion with that situation? Do you think we should do something different?

big jake Sun Sep 09, 2012 08:10pm

No, just research, got some great info, thanks

bigjohn Sun Sep 09, 2012 08:27pm

My umpire says he always throws a flag if he hears an IW...

Smartest comment I have seen in a long time!!!

Snickers are brain food, no doubt!!:)


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