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DLH17 Fri Sep 07, 2012 02:07pm

Free kick > K advancing the ball
 
K kicks the ball beyond the LOS where R1 muffs an attempt to catch the ball (no possession) OR the ball bounces and hits R1 in the leg. The ball is scooped by a member of K and advanced. Does the play end where K first touched or can K advance?

jTheUmp Fri Sep 07, 2012 02:11pm

K cannot advance a free kick (or scrimmage kick, for that matter), muffed or unmuffed.

mbyron Fri Sep 07, 2012 02:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 853581)
K cannot advance a free kick (or scrimmage kick, for that matter), muffed or unmuffed....

...that K recovers beyond the neutral zone. ;)

DLH17 Fri Sep 07, 2012 03:54pm

So, according to the 2011-2012 Handbook:

When R is the first to touch a scrimmage kick beyond the expanded neutral zone, the act has the following effect:

1. K may recover and maintain possession

since a muff is considered touching, correct?

tjones1 Fri Sep 07, 2012 04:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlh17 (Post 853599)
so, according to the 2011-2012 handbook:

When r is the first to touch a scrimmage kick beyond the expanded neutral zone, the act has the following effect:

1. K may recover and maintain possession

since a muff is considered touching, correct?

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Robert Goodman Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 853578)
K kicks the ball beyond the LOS where R1 muffs an attempt to catch the ball (no possession) OR the ball bounces and hits R1 in the leg. The ball is scooped by a member of K and advanced. Does the play end where K first touched or can K advance?

Neither. The ball is dead where first possessed by K.

BktBallRef Sat Sep 08, 2012 09:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLH17 (Post 853578)
K kicks the ball beyond the LOS where R1 muffs an attempt to catch the ball (no possession) OR the ball bounces and hits R1 in the leg. The ball is scooped by a member of K and advanced. Does the play end where K first touched or can K advance?

There's no such thing as a LOS during a free kick.

Are you asking about free kicks or scrimmage kicks?

The only kick K can advance is a scrimmage kick recovered in/behind the NZ. All others are dead when possessed.

BktBallRef Sat Sep 08, 2012 09:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman (Post 853625)
Neither. The ball is dead where first possessed by K.


That depends on where K recovers the ball.

Robert Goodman Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:05am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 853654)
That depends on where K recovers the ball.

Yeah. Had to assume certain things from the description, didn't think I'd have to cover the possibility it bounced back to the neutral zone or K's side.


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