NFHS 2012 Rules Book
 

I have search here and google for the PDF version of the new 2012 NFHS Football Rules book and can't find it. Does anyone know if it's available and where I might be able to down load it from? Thanks

Two choices- Join the Federation for $35.00 and have access via The Arbiter
or download the app from market fro $4.99.

Fed quit issuing pdf's due to copyright infringement.

Rule book and case book available as one app for iPhone, $5.99

and it is searchable.


and now I can post rules again!

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I have the little paper back copy and it's falling apart not mention small letters. I don't have a iphone, is it availble on Android?

Never mind just found it for Android.

How did you do that?

on my iphone I hit home and off button which takes a screen shot, then email the photo to my email address and then upload to google photos and then link to that url here on this board.

Simple! :)

Can't do that on my droid :(

it can be done but it is much more cumbersome.


http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/...ndroid-device/

Not being a Droid owner, I would imagine there is some way to do a screen capture on an Android device.

My coworker tells me it's Home + Volume Down.

On the Droid Charge, hold the back button and click on the home button. It will save it in your gallery. I imagine it is the same on the other Samsung phones and may work on other Android phones.

Yea to much for me to deal with there and the other ones suggested don't work either. Maybe has something to do with the Droid Razor touch screen.

No, let's say due to copying, not due to copyright infringement.

I recently bought DVDs of the 1932 Universal movie serial, "The Lost Special". Superimposed on the titles was a very recent copyright asserted by Red Circle Media. What do you think that copyright could cover?

From the US Copyright Office:

What is copyright infringement?
As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner.

I do believe COPYING would be considered reproduction and providing said copies would be distributing.

Feel free to argue with the agency of the Federal gov't about their definition of what they do. Somehow, I won't be surprised.

But that applies only to works protected by copyright. Merely slapping a copyright notice on public domain material doesn't copyright it.

There is some original writing in the Fed rule book that they can protect by their copyright. The actual rules themselves, no. It's like with that Red Circle Media example I gave; about the only thing their copyright protects on their 80 yr. old movies is the notice saying it's copyrighted by Red Circle Media!

Are you really arguing this? Seriously dude.

Peace

He has argued it well for a while now and I applaud him. You can't make the rules of the game millions of kids play, illegal to copy. That is absurd.

Actually you can if it is your publication.

I'm not sure why this particular myth keeps circulating. I can assure you that they are on the NFHS site and available to certain types of members. ;)



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Maybe because they are the one perpetuating it?

I was able to access it until this year. Others that posted here and other boards lost access a year or two earlier.

Consider yourself fortunate then because for many NFHS Official's Association members, we can't access the PDFs.

Doesn't your access have something to do with your state being a full member or not? I do not know the answer to this, but my state dropped membership for their officials and we have had no access unless we individually pay for that membership.

Peace

That may be the difference. I'm not sure what access our state membership gives us.

You'd think that access to the rule book would be primary, wouldn't you?

Don't you think every coach and official should have full access to the rules and case books??

In my state and sport, the only people who have access to the PDF rule books in the NFHS library are the people employed directly by the AA. Not even the state/local interpreters get these files.

By "full access" you mean that someone else should pay for it?

Let's not start injecting common sense into this discussion. :)

Isn't that why they send out rulebooks and casebooks? Who says you need internet or computer access to that same book? How many books to you buy that allow you immediate access to that book online?

Peace

First of all, copyright applies only to original material. The rules makers of the various USAn codes started with a single rule book and by degrees amended them, sometimes differently, and sometimes borrowing language from each other. Over most of that time nobody thought of putting a copyright notice on; that was a recent development. (The USFL rule book was 99% verbatim NFL's, yet they each had a copyright notice. You'll notice neither tried to sue the other over infringement!) When a work has very little original content, and that which is original is interleaved in such a way that it can't be easily picked out from the old material, even the original content is not protectable. What Fed and the other rules makers do have is some original stuff printed in the same volume as the rules, at the beginning and the end of the book, sandwiching the rules themselves, and those are the only parts copyright could legitimatelhy apply to -- but who even wants those parts?

Second, copyright is for literary expression, not for useful items such as instructions. A proprietary game or equipment for it can be patented, either utility or design patents, but the instructions for it cannot effectively be protected by copyright.

Third, when it comes to rules writing, the nature of it is such that there are usually very few says to say a thing differently and have it mean the same thing yet be as concise. In such cases, copyright has been held not to apply, because we know you're allowed to copy ideas, but it would be silly in such a case to insist on altering their wording.

Go ahead, compare the language in contemporary Fed & NCAA football rules in many passages. How could they possibly stand together if copyright applied to them? Each one could say they were being infringed by the other, but we know the truth, which is that copyright does not apply to their actual rules. It may apply to some ancillary material in their rule books, but not the rules themselves.

An expert legal opinion. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif

Robert, we've been rounds on this before so I'm not really interested in doing it again. That said the Fed claims a copyright and until somebody challenges them legally over it, they're going to continue to enforce it.

It's as if I've seen this argument from the same person before...hmmmm http://elouai.com/images/yahoo/33.gif

Then NFHS should come into the 21st century & offer them electronically as an option to the paper books. They would then be able to make immediate corrections/interpretations without the time delay that exists now.

Save a tree!

Have you ever heard of them enforcing it regarding the body of the rules? Obviously they don't enforce it against the biggest "infringers", the NCAA & NFL. And if they fail to enforce it against a notorious infringer, they lose it.

They are in the 21st centrury, that is why you can have an app on an Iphone or IPad (which I have) and you can buy their membership on Arbiter.

BTW, the Rulebook App is outstanding and very easy to navigate. I am glad I have that kind of access to the rulebooks.

The NCAA give access to their rulebooks too, but they only use a PDF model and offer them for free. But keep in mind they get more revenue sources surrounding their books as they require every official to pay for their membership and they send our rulebooks and mechanics manuals as a part of the membership. And the NF Rulebook is a lot easier to navigate and find stuff than the NCAA PDF version. The NF cannot make anyone be a member or any state use their stuff as an official. Remember it is up to each state to what extent they are members and who are members. My state does not include the officials because the IHSA would have had to raise fees to accomplish this, so they decided to leave us out and do their own thing.

Peace

Did you not see where I said "as an option to the paper copy"?

I'm not asking for something for nothing. Give us the choice of paper or electronic version at no additional cost, please!

Isn't that your state association's responsibility. Not everyone owns an IPad like I do and not sure why they would give the either/or option with such a limited group at this point. I am sure this will come down the line, but I doubt it now.

Peace

Do you want citations of court decisions? I'm a keen follower of intellectual property issues as an inventor and one involved in other creative fields.

No truer statement has ever been posted on this board.

Congratulations. We're all very impressed.

The OP was asked and answered. I think this thread has run its useful life.